I think it is incredibly admirable that @staff is so deeply dedicated to having a ToS that is all of:

  • consistently enforceable
  • maximally permissive
  • minimally harmful
  • thoroughly documented, including being explicit about where judgment calls are made

I've never seen any other website attempt to do this. The fact that Cohost continues to strive towards the goal, even when it gets them absolutely screamed at by disingenuous users, shows a remarkable strength of conviction. Every other website just bans way more than they should and then avoids getting yelled at for it by only enforcing it inconsistently.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Cohost is a miracle.


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in reply to @nex3's post:

It's such a powerful statement that whenever there's Discourseโ„ข about moderation, everyone in the replies states what the obvious answer is, and none of them agree with each other.

Moderation, as it turns out, is hard. Few even try to get it right.

(All by way of agreement.)

exactly, and @staff could easily just avoid all the discourse by just saying something vague like "we'll ban offensive material", but they aren't willing to sell out the quality of the website just to silence discourse about it. hero shit

honestly yeah, you have people going "why did you even have to think about this, why did you have to consult with the community about this, why didn't you just automatically do what i think is the best solution, this is a red flag" and it's just :host-stare:

to be fair, we don't know what the community response was. we know what the public comment threads looked like, but given how violently opposed people in those threads are to the idea of certain kinks it's likely that private feedback was at least somewhat different

yeah the first time was kind of a mess with all the brigading that happened lol. i feel like the rest of the guidelines should have been their own public thread dropped a bit earlier (so as to not get buried, those poor other guidelines...) and then the sensitive polling should have been kept to private emails only, if they suspected the most outspoken group was just a vocal minority, though