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MxSelfDestruct
@MxSelfDestruct

literally just use a normal distribution and 80% of your problems stop existing. anything not derived from Debian, Red Hat, or OpenSUSE is just a waste of your time.


MxSelfDestruct
@MxSelfDestruct

I've used Ubuntu/Debian as a daily driver since I was like... ten?

I still don't really know how apt and dpkg work. I have no idea how to "use" systemd. PulseAudio/ALSA/JACK may as well be a black box to me. This has yet to be a real problem for me. I've never needed to intimately understand them. It just hasn't come up. They just work, or they don't work and you run apt -f install or log out and log in again and then they work again. it's fine. it's whatever. they just work. I feel like Linux doesn't get enough credit for that.


fullmoon
@fullmoon

I'm a huge NixOS shill but I don't think it's use case is as a desktop operating system. It's much better suited as production operating system.


ireneista
@ireneista

not gonna lie. it's really nice to be in that position. it is not the experience of people who aren't strange and broken in the ways we are (this is "broken" in a positive sense)

but yeah we for sure use NixOS for everything including things where we know that's going to cause a lot of trouble

we also do things like compiling our own bootloader, heavily customizing our window manager, disabling all the standard functionality we can, intentionally adding additional password prompts to things, deploying five experimental features together none of which works properly even on its own, all that

years ago we once had to write our own partition table repair tool, while booted into a LiveCD without persistent storage, because we got ourselves into a mess where we had only one computer and it wouldn't boot. see, the thing is we get ourselves into things but then we also get ourselves out of things, and at the end of the day it's fond memories.

just pretty inconvenient when we need things to, like, WORK


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in reply to @MxSelfDestruct's post:

That's how I always chose a distro:

  • Do I want my PC to Just Work™? Debian. Maybe Fedora. Ubuntu can Fuck Off with its mandatory snaps.
  • Do I want to have "fun"? Rolling release (Void, Arch, Artix), or something else unorthodox (Gobo, Puppy, Silverblue, LFS).

Been a Linux user for about 10 years now, most of the time my main distro was Arch or (as of now) Artix.
Definitely has its upsides -- can customize almost everything you want, install latest versions of software almost immediately, AUR exists.
Definitely has downsides as well -- sometimes you have to configure stuff by youself, or it won't work or will work badly (looking at bluetooth), latest versions of software might conflict with other packages or not work at all.
I also have had times when after an update I was greeted with a kernel panic or with a "glibc not found" (update your rolling distros regularly kids).

Would I recommend using Arch/Artix as a daily driver to a person that just wants their PC to work? Fuck No.

in reply to @fullmoon's post:

yeah, that's the one (or possibly gentoo which is similar in spirit)

maybe not that much, but it definitely is more lax with space than other distros

you can be space-efficient with NixOS by scheduling regular garbage collections (e.g. the nix.gc.* options), though