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r_m_@orchidrabbit7/27/2023, 8:05 PM

i think an important takeaway from the ending section of lotr: two towers is the conversation sam overhears between the two orc captains that pick up frodo's body, named shagrat and gorbag, and how they want to leave their lives of service to sauron behind and go run away together (with a couple of their "boys" too).

like i think this is important for 1. an actual understandable degree of humanity being present in the orcs in the original lotr text, which is something that's sorely (and often done out of racism) missed in any further use of the orc race/species in the late 20th/early 21st century,

and 2. gay orcs

#im not gonna gove tolkien a pass on the orc racism because theres still A Lot that he put in anyways #especially with the presentation of the "dark" men from other places that are not rohan or gondor #but the fact these orcs have charactet writing to the depth it did is pretty cool #lotr #lord of the rings

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Rat Grimes @rat7/27/2023, 9:48 PM

I am not a big Tolkien head, but the orcs are also like a "corrupted" group, right? Like elves made "evil" or otherwise manipulated?

Whereas in d&d (forgotten realms at least) and lots of other places, they're just like that. They're naturally violent, warring outsiders.

Both bad! But weird how that switch happened

r_m_@orchidrabbit7/27/2023, 10:26 PM

i think you are a bit right about the lotr orcs being corrupted beings, but in the broader context they're grouped in with the black/brown people from the outer reaches of middle earth in which for some reason these people are more easily swayed by the influence of sauron, because evil is inherent in their hearts of men, but these guys especially or something, which does point them toward the eventual forgotten realms interpretation.
but in the dnd/forgotten realm context if you need a guy to cut down for your power simulator you probably need them to be as justifiably evil as possible, where kind of the point of tolkien's whole treatise of lord of the rings is that violence and war is bad for literally everybody lol

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