oriana

they're discussing banning alolamola
they're discussing unbanning Darkrai and Genesect
multiple people claiming Game Freak 'are idiots' who 'can't balance their own game' and are 'reacting in fear of the last metagame'
there sure are slurs in that thread

Solon HD @solon11/29/2023, 3:18 AM

Here's an easy visualization for the state of Smogon as described exquisitely by Talen

#pokemon #smogon #Furret PU to ZU #Good for Sandslash #keep going smogon #play this one out until OU is exactly six pokemon #i want to know

oriana @oriananonexistent11/29/2023, 5:42 PM

this is probably a little unfair but this is one of the main reasons i will never care about the competitive scene of any game

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@deafhobbit11/28/2023, 4:03 PM

gliscourse

Talen Lee @TalenLee11/28/2023, 4:06 PM

I'm so mad I didn't see this

@deafhobbit11/28/2023, 6:01 PM

you can add tags by editing the post

SixArmedSweater @SixArmedSweater11/28/2023, 9:08 PM

Yeah, it’s a complete mess.

fish @fiish4/18/2024, 12:24 AM

You can use Pokemon from a lower tier in this tier, but it generally works out badly, because those Pokemon are not strong enough for this tier.

this is not true. a pokemon being in a lower tier doesn't mean that it's not strong enough for ou, it means it doesn't get 4.52% usage in ou. looking at scl iii's usage stats (a tournament hosted around when this article was posted), we can see that 62 pokemon received a usage rate above .71%, your "cutoff rate" for vgc.

Anyone who played Smogon exclusively through all the years of Generation 8 is someone who has no idea what a core mechanic of that game does to the game based on their play experience.

do you.. think that they banned dynamax before playing with it? 241/291 people voted to ban it after playing with it and deciding they didn't like it.

Talen Lee @TalenLee4/18/2024, 12:28 AM

62 pokemon out of over a thousand seems to bear up my statement that it 'generally works out badly.'
I was operating on the assumption that a lot more than 241 people play smogon, but if you think that's the cohort, then sure

fish @fiish4/18/2024, 2:36 PM

your article literally says "There are Pokemon who exist for, most likely, their place in a single-player RPG experience", before bringing up that 75 (not much more than 62) pokemon received a .71% usage rate or above in that vgc tournament. Also scarlet and violet only had 600 pokemon at the time.
i seriously doubt that there was an unspoken majority of players who were fine with dynamax and also didn't vote to keep it