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alyaza
@alyaza
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vogon
@vogon

I haven't said this because I own a quarter of this place so it would come off as sour grapes but yeah, bluesky isn't that much larger than cohost, and all of the additional perceived Mindshare they have is due to the fact that:

a) they intentionally recruited twitter influencers to be early users
b) they intentionally put everyone in much closer contact constantly

obviously bluesky has a billionaire and tech celebrity at the helm so they have the ability to do a) in a way we don't, but also these are things we would've intentionally chosen not to do even if we could


erica
@erica

knowing that bluesky has like 2.5x more users than this place and posts just very visibly do way fucking worse on there is so funny

break yourself from the mentality of "i need to be where the people are" because you actually don't, you gotta be where people actively want to see your shit. what good is mad followers and mad views and mad algorithm if no one is taking your shit in and supporting you?


DecayWTF
@DecayWTF

Part of it is people unwittingly internalizing VC logic where there's no meaningful concept of audience or intended market. It's why people chase virality when it demonstrably does not lead to sales connections (and this is all assuming you're selling anything at all, where any of this is meaningful!) Instead of actually developing an audience you're just trying to get in front of eyeballs, but no one who's actually successful does this! People who use virality to gain audience are usually springboarding off an existing audience they already developed. If you don't do that, if you're counting on "platform discoverability" and "virality", you're never going to build audience because you're not talking to anyone, all the huge number of users - ~0% of whom are your audience (thanks @TalenLee)! - is just a market diluted beyond any use or hope of connecting with anyone.


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in reply to @alyaza's post:

in reply to @vogon's post:

i've been offered bluesky invites by people mostly in response to going "ugh" at being basically paywalled when trying to open a link and like. i've just kept saying "nah not really" because. even not having really experienced bluesky, cohost is so much comfier and doesn't pull stuff like that. it's interesting to hear that we're doing "just as well" without all that

yeah, but the tone around bluesky is that it’s already won the Twitter Replacement war despite being 1/1,000 the size of twitter and still 10 times smaller than even the fediverse

in reply to @erica's post:

Will add to this: i genuinely get way more attention on my posts here than i do twitter, even tho i somehow have 1k followers over there, and have a handful here.

i think part of it has to do with Tw's weird algos and people over here being more attuned to paying attention for more than 3 seconds

in reply to @DecayWTF's post:

It's also worth mentioning, as a bluesky user - it is already, at this early stage, in full "exploding and on fire" mode. The primary topic for weeks, if not the whole of the last month, has been "this is how the devs are currently fucking up" and whole swathes of the community seem to be abandoning the project. Other swathes of the community, as probably is not surprising, given it's "influencer / hellposter" makeup, have been engaging in blood fueds with each other for the last week or more.

Really not a great place right now, or, honestly, probably ever in the future!