pendell

Current Hyperfixation: Wizard of Oz

  • He/Him

I use outdated technology just for fun, listen to crappy music, and watch a lot of horror movies. Expect posts about These Things. I talk a lot.

Check tags like Star Trek Archive and Media Piracy to find things I share for others.



rachelmae
@rachelmae

it boggles my mind that a company that is constantly under fire for scams and phishing and a host of other security issues would just casually drop masked links and make the problem worse. someone already abused this on the TCRF server to hide a link to some bitcoin bullshit and i am fucking seething.

Discord is, first and foremost, a chat program. it does not need full markdown support. i don't care if it pops up a confirmation dialog asking if you really want to go to the linked website; that is not enough, that has never been enough. they need to nuke this feature from orbit and maybe seriously consider going out of business because they have proven time and time again that they are absolutely not fit to run this service.


pendell
@pendell

I miss when Discord was just a simple chat app run by a small, fun team that was genuinely funny and relatable in their marketing and the app was introducing genuinely good features like channel categories and server folders... Now it's just all corporate dogshit and their marketing reeks of "le relatable Twitter brand" shit and the only good thing they've done in like the past 4 years is up the free user upload limit to 25mb.

They recently decided that developing a separate app for iOS and Android was too much work so they shafted Android users by basically porting their iOS app to Android, which would obviously break a bunch of shit but they seemed surprised by this fact and still, months later, haven't fixed like a single issue that this change has resulted in. Still, if I open the app by tapping on a notification, all the media preview windows stretch beyond the limit of the screen, and I have to close and open it from the home screen to have media display correctly. Still, scrolling back to the current message doesn't snap you down instantly and instead engages a continuous scroll animation that runs in real time, so if you've scrolled up through your message history a few weeks, waiting for the app to seek back to the latest one can take actual calendar minutes. They've known about these and many other issues for months now and seemingly refuse to fix a single one of them, because they've reached the stage of smug confidence all platforms eventually reach that it doesn't matter how bad everything is and how shitty their service is becoming, everyone uses it and nobody would ever leave it, so we can shovel as much shit as we want onto the users with zero consequences! This has never backfired in the history of the internet!

I would much rather take 2016 Discord's server instability where they would spontaneously go offline twice a week for 5 minutes at a time over the garbage company we have today. Don't even get me started on how mind-boggingly unhelpful and hostile they are when it comes to customer support, account bans, and phone number requirements.


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in reply to @rachelmae's post:

So I fucked about with this and they did do some sanity checking, in that it won't convert the link if the link text is also a url. ie. you can't do [https://www.hotelfsex.com](http://this.linkishax.io) etc.

yeah and they foresaw some tricks but not enough:

  • xkeeper showed one
  • the character ⫽ is only a little bit off
  • and i just realized one can just split it into 2 links: [h](https://google.com/#)[ttps://blah.blah](https://google.com/)
    • the hash is because the embed parser would otherwise see it as https://google.com/https://google.com/ and thus fail, great coding

i would agree but on the other hand i like full markdown support and as long as you are somewhat sane and check links before mindlessly clickingon them (if you hover over a link it shows you a true URL), and have to go through a popup telling you what website you're going to, AND there's an embed showing the true contents of the website - I really don't think it's that big of a problem.

thing is the popup now shows up for every link clicked, not just masked ones, so people will tune it out
and embeds are just opengraph so they can be copy-pasted and nobody will be able to tell (unless it's something special like youtube or twitter); heck there are websites for making links with custom embeds that redirect to whatever without writing a gram of html

All the reasons for markdown support that I can think of are in service of using Discord as a repository for information. Since Discord isn't indexed by search engines and you generally can't even read-only access a discord server without publicly announcing yourself and surrendering personal information, those use-cases are inherently terrible. What a fine mess we're in.

lmao i was just thinking about how enabling all markdown in all messages (like headers and the like) is explicitly getting ready to really turn them into private little wikis of future lost information, it rules. we're fucked

It's even more glorious when you remember that Discord, like every other shitty tech company, is flirting with LLM (Ludicrous Liar Machine) technology.

Not only will the little faux-wikis be inaccessible to actual people, they will be hoarded and resold to institutional customers that wish to produce wiki-shaped spam.

It's ok! Discord has a little pop up that says WHOA THAT'S AN EXTERNAL LINK ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO THERE? On every single URL, which means it's safe to do dumb shit like this! They even WON'T LET YOU MIDDLE CLICK TO OPEN IN NEW TAB WITHOUT THE CLICKTHROUGH ANYMORE THEY'RE SERIOUS ABOUT SECURITY