pendell

Current Hyperfixation: Wizard of Oz

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I use outdated technology just for fun, listen to crappy music, and watch a lot of horror movies. Expect posts about These Things. I talk a lot.

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Say hello to the fourth Zip drive I've purchased in the past two months, the third BROKEN one I've purchased, and officially the fifth broken one I OWN (had two knocking around prior to this, also both broken).

The seller advertised it as "working good" and doesn't accept returns. I paid $45 for this paperweight that goes "ca-clunk ca-clunk" and then throws I/O errors. I thought maybe buying one of the original parallel port drives would yield better results - clearly I was mistaken. This thing is just as dead as almost every other Zip drive I've seen.

I guess the VST FireWire one that works was just a fluke, and these drives must be the most unreliable pieces of trash ever made. That or I'm just extremely unlucky. Or maybe they used to be reliable some long time in the past and they're just all totally kaput now. I don't know, and at this point, I don't care. I've sunk too much time and money into these damn things.

If the seller doesn't accept a return, maybe, maybe I'll open the drive up and see if I can get it working. I saw one forum thread somewhere that said the metal piece actually holding the drive head can become bent, and that will prevent it from being able to enter the disk cavity altogether, and that bending it back into place can make it work just fine again. It's believable this and maybe my Zip 100 USB could have both suffered this during shipping. But I don't have high hopes, and even on that same forum thread, some of the people in the replies said they'd done the same thing and it only made their drives function for a couple of days.

Gonna stop spending money on things for a while after this. I've just got such an awful taste in my mouth from this whole disaster.


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I'm sorry this keeps happening.

Unfortunately, Zip is an objectively bad technology (but Iomega was incredibly good at Capitalism in the US) and it appears more of them are either failing from their original design flaws and/or simply dying of being old.

I sometimes wonder if we're not that far away from all the removable media hardware dying off and that aspect of what computing was like in the '80s and '90s being lost.

Ripping the thing open out of frustration revealed to me the tiny heads that are basically a pair of tweezers that slide in over the disc and instantly made me realize what the entire click of death fiasco was about - if those tweezer heads get misaligned by millimeters, it just crashes right into the disc and mangles to to hell. What a moronic design.

For the record though I don't think that's what's happening here. It sounds like the drive heads aren't even managing to leave their recess and try to engage with the disk in any way. Like some part in charge of moving the heads is snapped. Who knows. It's in several pieces and in the trash now.

I glanced at MO drives but they're prohibitively expensive still. Zip was definitely trash and despite my issues with SuperDisk, at least it was smart enough to stick with the robust floppy-style head mechanism (heads lifted away until you slide a disk between them, then they clamp down).

At this point just gonna deal with regulr floppies lmao. 8mb file? Looks like I'm making split zip archives!

Yeah... unfortunately there's like, nothing really recommandably better, unfortunately? MO is, as mentioned, a significantly better technology but didn't sell in particularly great volume in the US. Other things that did sell well here , like LS-120, are also aging into not being useful and also LS-120 is really only useful on "computers new enough to have a USB port" at which point... CF/SD card readers or USB flash drives would be easier.

If you were focusing on One Platform, like "I want to have a lot of Macs!" my recommendation would be to equip yourself for file sharing and simply use networking.

On the Mac side of things, there's floppy emulators and modern image-oriented HDD emulators that let you do things like simulate a CDROM changer and would be "better-ish" for like an 8-meg file or whatever.

For anything with USB, there's USB/SD/CF and for anything with PCMCIA there's CF, but that still leaves a lot of room.

I've been thinking on it some more and I think DVD-RAM really is a viable option. Lots of existing drives, reliable technology, and many were SCSI, so you get all that extra functionality with old machines. And for machines where 4.7GB per side is overkill, there's 2.6GB disks, and early drives are backwards compatible with PD650, essentially a 650MB CD-RAM. I've never been good at setting up in-home networks for things lol