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pengosolvent - compost 1 incognito nov 25 23
compost 1 incognito nov 25 23
pengosolvent
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distorted art of two sheep holding hands. one is leading the other forward and looks kind of strange. general mood is off-putting, and the image is grainy and it's kind of hard to tell where the sheep even are

did a track for this music prompt thing where you make something in the day with 1 to 2 hours

writing i did while working on this song and then final thoughts

right off the bat i am registering a lot of broken connections for myself in working on music, where as before i would have a lot of samples that ping in my head as aligned to a general concept i want to make, but here it was more like...
"i sort of like these samples even if i don't have a feeling or direction in mind yet"

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currently listening to a song i made for someone for their game that had a detective-y vibe, trying to remember what instruments feel like what and why

i have a little under an hour and a half for the rest of this which feels a little ... not overwhelming but it does feel a bit absurd (for myself)

i register time and time again how important it is to have an emotional throughline when i make music, but also to have trust that it will end up working out

i struggle with both of those, but especially the 2nd one

anyway i've been writing this while listening to the detective track
i like that bells, or high "beautiful" sounding instruments, seem to add a level of playful mysteriousness and i think i will be trying to incorporate that

i've no idea what this track is going to sound like

i admittedly have very little attachment to the theme because i don't... well, i'm not very social on cohost and i don't really "get" the attachment to eggbug or the vibe of "giving a gold star to CSS criminals"
i think it's meant to be funny, but i am notoriously bad at finding things funny

so i'm trying to figure out a feeling i can connect to along the way because it feels less like i've been given a theme and more like i've been given a scenario and i can go into that really a lot based on music commissions i've done, but i don't think i want to right now

-its been like 5 minutes- ok time to go back to trying to work on music

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sometimes i wonder if my method to try to stay on key helps or hinders me

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having a serious conversation while working on this is kind of nuts

i don't feel bad though

i'm currently just kind of making a bunch of noises and see if anything stands out to me

i have a hunch i'm not going to be able to make this sound "cohesive" or detective-y but i might be able to make it sound somewhat dark or in the shadows?

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i got a feeling of a sample to put into the song which is always a good sign
there's 35 minutes left, but that's still good i think... when i get a feeling like "this part needs [a specific sound]" it means i'm actually figuring out a feeling i want and what aligns to that feeling

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it's sad to feel all the places my confidence in music is really damaged... i want to add drums, and i immediately recall just how stressed i could become about doing drums "wrong"

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14 minutes and i dont think i'm going to be getting this to a point where i'm "happy" with it, but i do feel like i've at least gotten it to a point where i think there's something i can do with it with more time

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i got one last sample i wanted to get in just before my timer sounded

i touched up a few pieces...

i feel like i struggled to stay on theme, but to be fair i had no idea what i was going for and still don't

i think the end result sounds a bit sinister? also very messy
i feel like it makes sense that it sounds messy, i didn't entirely know what i wanted or why

i guess i was "investigating" my own musical process, which definitely does evade me often

i remember when i used to make music, i felt like i had specific instruments i associated with specific feelings, but i started feeling self-conscious about it
it makes me sad, doubt can really make one forget so many things

it can feel like i'm trying to wrangle myself down to work on a concept and that's hard when i struggle to feel anything, and thus i don't know what sounds i would like to use

i took a lot of damage when i was a teen about my instrument choices, where people were really against default instruments or something, presets, but i really associated those sounds with a lot of really specific feelings! i only felt more and more constrained from there

...sometimes i feel like that episode of spongebob with squidward teaching art class, where spongebob had his own methods of doing things and then ended up not connecting to that anymore

i would like to reconnect, it's sad to feel how "desolate" my internal music-making system has become

it's not always desolate, but when it is, it really is

i think i liked working on this though, because it felt like trying to piece together and figure what is damaged in me and where, and also when i do feel something i like

i'm glad i felt "oh a train sound would go well here" and i had like... a billion saved train sounds
i think the train is kind of drowned out in the song in some ways, but it's still nice to feel "i felt a specific want for something and thus enacted it"

i appreciate when there is clarity in my feelings. it can feel rare

i think this track feels like a heist or otherwise some kind of big thing is occurring and you're not entirely aware of what, but something else is aware of it and having fun

whether that's a "good" or "bad" thing... i suppose that is to be determined

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holy shit i'm really happy with the art, ash was like "i'm drawing something for mine" and i was like what the fuck i can't just NOT draw something for mine now... really glad i did
i like the result


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in reply to @pengosolvent's post:

thanks for sharing your thoughts while you were working! too many people have been made self-conscious about their art choices for shit reasons, i commend you for fighting back against it. embrace all the things you want to do and the choices you want to make with your work, nobody should ever take that from you

i like your track too, there is a lot going on but i feel that's a positive quality, it's like ear candy (i love this sort of thing even in my own music tbh lol). you talked a lot about the sound selection and i think you struck a really poignant mix. the train whistle is cool (and pairs nicely with the panflute), and i like those couple bars where a bunch of cymbals drop in for a spotlight. sinister's a good word for it! out and about in the seedy red light district at night

i'll have to think about the theming around future prompts, i went with "cohost-core" cause that seemed the most fun but i didn't really consider that folks on the periphery might not gel with that. still, i think it's ok to be as liberal as you want with interpreting it, and just rolling with whatever excites you the most, or the first thing you think about

thank you for the thoughtful comment. i appreciate the support... it can be hard to recall that my own negative self-perception is not intrinsically the baseline for how people encounter my work

as for the theming, i think it's important for you to have fun with whatever topic you feel resonates with you, so i hope you don't feel inclined to move compost towards something that will feel boring towards you, just because i don't really "get" cohost humor well... and i have been struggling to have "fun" in general lately (long story, mental health struggles) and it's even harder to do in music. as such, i don't feel like... my struggle here is necessarily something you need to adjust to? not that i don't appreciate the consideration because i really do, i just want to be clear that i don't feel you've done anything intrinsically wrong here and i don't want to pressure you at all away from what feels fun to you. i do appreciate that the compost topic can be interpreted loosely

I want to say I'm happy you tried here and learned about yourself, and I'm happy when you value your thoughts and follow your own ideas and vision

I feel like I could leave this song on and draw to it for a long time, even though it's "short"ish, it feels like so much is going on that I could draw a lot of ideas from

I love the way you layer things generally and I feel it here in this song too, I really like the way you place samples

I feel like the art also goes really well to the piece... there does seem to be this "darkness" feeling almost, jungle or forest feeling, with some "bright" aspects, and I like this contrast a lot... i feel like this is part of what makes the "layering" really nice here... the layers all sound distinct and like they have their own "places"...

this song sounds very "you" in ways i like a lot, it makes me happy to hear