Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy

while i personally don’t have a ton of reason to switch away from Atkinson Hyperlegible (which we use on cohost, and the ASSC website’s long form writing, and also i use it in fucking everything personally) but it’s really good to have multiple options for this sort of thing.

Inclusive Sans looks like a really nice execution of a lot of the same concepts. love to see it

Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy @pervocracy5/8/2024, 5:13 PM

I'm really glad to see the progress in readability-focused fonts towards ones that are, uh, readable.

Like I get the theory behind OpenDyslexic and its relatives and if they work for you then that's great, font options are always more accessible than any one font

but to me (in fairness I am not dyslexic, but I am a person who needs to read things) a full page of text written in OpenDyslexic is such a chaos of line thicknesses that it's much harder to read than, say, Garamond. which was created in 1540. yeah, the letters are easy to identify individually, but following a line of text across the screen FeElS lIkE tHiS

Inclusive Sans looks much more like regular-ass text, and that is not just an aesthetic improvement, it's a usability one.

#fonts #oops I'm back to being petty

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ooh neat! although I personally think the only character that should be a single vertical line is the vertical bar character |, it's too much contested territory to use for either of I or l even if you make the other one a different shape, so Atkinson wins for me on that front

Dan @scatsmanul5/9/2024, 12:28 AM

I like the l better in cohost font.

ira 🌷🐰@irina5/9/2024, 1:26 AM

yeah, Atkinson Hyperlegible does a good job of distinguishing 1, L, I, i, j, and l, even when they're not next to each other!

ira 🌷🐰@irina5/9/2024, 1:20 AM

im a big fan of hyperlegible myself (i also use it for everything i can) but the one thing is doesn't do well is support for vietnamese characters.

id love it if the braille institute would expand its character support, but they don't seem interested in really working on it any further than they already have :/ im sure vietnamese isn't the only language with these issues, and there's absolutely no cyrillic option

(if you look at words like Chữ, Hà Nội, or Đại, or Thành phố, most of the vowels fallback to a default sans-serif (which is just different enough to notice))

three genders in a wenchcoat @akhra5/9/2024, 2:21 AM

thank you for the Cohost font choice BTW, Inclusive Sans failed to consider that its 'l' is only differentiated within the font and not alongside others (which carries the cognitive load of "wait what font is this" even if no others are in view)

C. Ocelot @C-Ocelot5/9/2024, 6:44 PM

I'm just happy that liL1Ij all look different on here. I'm so sick of Il being the same shape and the only differential being like 2px height.

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