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physics undergrad (among other, evil things)


VideoWitch
@VideoWitch

Someone I follow on tumblr reblogged a post chastising leftists for not participating in local elections and seeing it has filled me with a deeply intense anger that I am now forced to stew in.


VideoWitch
@VideoWitch

like that is obnoxious and frustrating regardless of when you say it but it is beyond that in the current moment. Being like "most of the demands of people who say they want a revolution can be achieved via voting in local elections" as the us government aids a genocide is beyond the fucking pale


DecayWTF
@DecayWTF

"most of the demands of people who say they want a revolution can be achieved via voting in local elections"

Can it?? Can it really??

Cause a significant chunk of the population of Seattle went to open battle with the SPD and demanded police abolition with reducing police funding as the transitional demand and every single city council candidate has been campaigning since on increasing police funding! And reducing police funding is not a remotely revolutionary demand! We can't even get "stop spending all of the city's money on white supremacist murderers" through electoral politics! I am going to throttle these people!


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in reply to @DecayWTF's post:

I agree with the point in a very narrow scope: once you amass enough for a revolution you can choose when the start date is, you've already won all of the elections because you've got a plurality bloc at worst :V

but it hinges on a fundamental misunderstanding of how revolutions work. or rather, a revolution you can plan out that much only happens in the books.

Sure. At the point you've built sufficient power and if your organization runs in the direction of a political party it may not even be unreasonable to contest elections, viz. Lenin, but at that point it's fighting on equal ground. But yeah exactly.

yeah a lot of the electoralists point to lenin saying we need to contest parliament, but like, the parliament he was contesting was one where one guy could tie up the floor and actually be heard lol

there's elections worth voting in (especially municipal in cities with extended legal authority like NYC) but they can't be where nearly all the labor or focus goes, and instead as a side effect.

if you organize (ugh) your district you'll never need to canvass, you can instead make collective-demands of anyone who would fill the seat you have a collective-majority over, as the example we used to commonly use