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dog
@dog

Probably the #1 thing I hope to impress on younger gay people is please don't use "gay panic" to mean something positive because it has a very specific extremely negative meaning that a lot of people are going to have an instant reaction to


shel
@shel

I keep encountering Gen Zers saying "gay panic" to mean like, having a crush? limerence? and like... yeah yeah linguistic drift is natural but... gay panic has a legal definition that relates to hate crimes and murder so like... let's... not shift that one's meaning?


dog
@dog

Yeah, I feel like what I have to clarify to people who aren't familiar: the gay panic defense is a legal defense in murder trials that argues that a straight person experiencing sexual advances from a gay/trans person is so inherently traumatizing that they can't be held legally liable for their actions.

While these days it's less successful than it used to be, there's still plenty of jurisdictions where it hasn't been outlawed - on Wikipedia's list, the most recent case where someone successfully used it to get their charges downgraded was only nine years ago.

So you can see the conflict here - to me, if I see someone saying they/a character is experiencing "gay panic", I don't immediately picture that they have a cute overwhelming crush on someone of the same gender. I think they might be on the verge of committing a hate crime.


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in reply to @dog's post:

I've seen (mostly younger, mostly online) people use "gay panic" for, like. The feeling of being overwhelmed with attraction for someone. Which is extremely different from what "gay panic" means to me

That makes three definitions I now know of: The two you mentioned, and one where a straight person realizes they may not be straight (due to the overwhelming attraction) and can't handle it so they freak out or lash out in some way. This particular use is more common in media, and it seems to be used by younger people.

I don't like it much either.

in reply to @shel's post:

I think it's too late to stop that trend, it was huge on tiktok a few years ago

in my mind there's a separation between "gay panic" as used by Gen Z and "the gay panic defense" as an evil legal construct, and the context is always obvious.

I get the discomfort though

is it? the main "harm" that reclamation of these terms does is the emotional impact on someone hearing it, and that is gonna be much worse for a slur one might've been targetted with than the knowledge that the same word was once also used in legislation/jurisprudence targetting one.

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