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Plum @plumpan8/23/2023, 6:27 PM

A post almost, but not quite, about Sega Rally

So I was looking at pictures of the Celica GT-Four online, specifically the ST185 model. A few of them have this, horizontal slat bumper and most of them have a much more open + aggressive bumper design that was seen on the rally cars of the time.

But this got me thinking... most racing games of the era seem to overlook the Celica? Obviously Sega Rally has it front and center but a lot of the touge/tuner/etc games that I'm familiar with from the late 90s through the early 00s seem to ignore it in favor of other cars of the era. The rally offerings from Subaru and Mitsubishi get tons of attention obviously, but it feels like anyone wanting Toyota representation in the game went for Supras or the old Corolla models. Hell I don't think a GT-Four spec Celica was in any significant role in Initial D? I wanna say some dork drove one and got stomped and no one cared ever again.

This has to be just a lack of knowledge on my part, also my brain is mostly pulling up games that feel like they have a more "highway racing" bias which the Group A cars typically didn't get as much attention/stats in compared to the high powered GT style cars anyway.

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@RacingGameArchive8/23/2023, 7:16 PM

That baddie in the movie 3rd stage had a GT-Four, so it got some attention at least.

But I agree, its mostly the GT-Four that gets featured, the one that the Group B Celica is based on I can't remember ever being seen in a game.

Plum @plumpan8/23/2023, 7:17 PM

I thought the 3rd stage baddie drove a Evo III?

I remember laughing my ass off the first time I saw a Evo III in GT, it looked like an Evo II with one of those dentist tools that holds your lips open

@RacingGameArchive8/23/2023, 7:34 PM

Hes also in second stage, but in 3rd stage Takumi goes to that baddies home stage and race him there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GptKsBT28WY

Plum @plumpan8/23/2023, 7:36 PM

oh right, THAT guy. I always forget about that guy, for good reason.

@RacingGameArchive8/23/2023, 7:38 PM

Prolly the most pointless "race" in the whole Initial D xD

vyvansula?@funcitonretrun8/24/2023, 1:19 AM

Synthesising from a bunch of half-remembered stuff: I reckon that the GT-Four was just not hugely popular in the tuning/racing scene (and thus racing games) due to a lack of, like, onramps. Your base model Skyline or Silvia was still RWD, and forced induction wasn't limited to the top of the model range. You could borrow your mum's AWD Impreza and pretend you were Colin McRae on the nearest gravel road, or buy a WRX if the budget wouldn't stretch to a STi. Evos, well, in Australia at least Lancers were absolutely thick on the ground and many of them were dressed up to look a little Evo-like. Celicas were much less common, and so there were far fewer Celica drivers imagining their SX or ST was a GT-Four. (Would be interesting to see how things turned out if Toyota switched to rallying the Corolla earlier than they did.)

The engine was probably a factor too. Specialist garages and aftermarket for SR, RB, 4G63 and EJ20 engines absolutely dwarfed the 3SGTE sphere.

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