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- they/them
plural system in Seattle, WA (b. 1974)
lots of fictives from lots of media, some horses, some dragons, I dunno. the Pnictogen Wing is poorly mapped.
host: Mx. Kris Dreemurr (they/them)
chief messenger and usual front: Mx. Chara or Χαρά (they/them)
other members:
Mx. Frisk, historian (they/them)
Monophylos Fortikos, unicorn (he/him)
Kel the Purple, smol derg (xe/xem)
Pim the Dragon, Kel's sister (she/her)
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in reply to @pnictogen-wing's post:
Consider: transformation that just doesn’t activate pain in your nerves? I mean sometimes a little bit of pain is fun but generally when people are like “yeah I’m into this it’s kinky” I don’t think they mean “tf with excruciating bodily pain”. I certainly don’t anyways
(nods and sighs) yeah I have to admit that, even in the process of writing those words, I was asking myself if it "needed" to be painful. perhaps some gentle methods could exist hypothetically. I don't want to be a complete buzzkill. ~Chara
I mean, one way is to just say “fuck it, magic”
You aren’t being a buzzkill, I’ve already considered how painful “irl tf” would probably be, and that hasn’t stopped me from being completely obsessed with transformation all the time lol
even if it was painful, i'd still go through with it. i want us to get to be, well, Us, but there's no way for us to be that way
I'm not very versed in more realistic flesh and blood transformation so I can't really speak on that regarding pain. BUT, I am versed in silly cartoonish transformation and body alteration, which while it can have minor pain depending on what causes it and some definite disorientation and/or discomfort, it's mostly treated like the body is made of clay or rubber or dough or some other substance like that. None of those things, even if they had nerves running through them, would register an alteration in form as "harm." Muscles wouldn't stretch painfully between bones, nerves, if they were made of the same substance(which lets say they are) wouldn't tear apart or become damaged, the growth of new mass of the same sort on the body wouldn't crush organs painfully, they would just smush or stretch out of the way, etc.
I think a whole bunch of the people who imagine transformation and ESPECIALLY shape change stuff are doing it with this or a very similar viewpoint. I mean... one of the things I regularly imagine is having a massage so thorough and extreme that the masseuse kneads my body like it's made of clay until I'm just an incredibly satisfied and relaxed blob on the massage table. <3 I'm certain there are people who are interested in the type of werewolf transformations in which the werewolf's body expands within their human skin, ripping and tearing through it in a bloody and excruciating display. And I imagine the people who are interested in that recognize the trauma it would cause even if they may hand wave it away.
So, I would categorize TF into at least a couple of categories because there are at least two schools of thought on it. ;) Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some achy muscles and I could really use a thorough full body massage and I see a big ole steamroller headed this way. It was nice talking to you! smiles happily as she leaps into the path of the steamroller and is immediately flattened and spread out wide on the road cartoonishly🥴💦
(can't help but smile) I feel like I merely reveal the limits of my own imagination. thanks for the charming demonstration =D perhaps I'm simply bad at imagining the absence of pain... ~Chara
Glad I got ya to smile <3 And it's okay, imagination grows as we're exposed to new and different things. It grows our whooole lives. :3 And it's okay if you have trouble imagining the absence of pain. Pain means something different to different people... like... I can't stand the idea of pain play in BDSM, but there are LOADS of people who enjoy that. I just can't wrap my mind around it as hard as I try. And that's okay. We each bring a unique perspective to the world and it's really cool that we can all have conversations together and discuss how we each experience the world differently ^u^
i've actually seen this idea explored in a more positive light, as one of the Heart's Desire endings in Fallen London. if one's player character explicitly requests to be transformed, the treatments and gradual reshaping of flesh are often painful, and always agonizingly slow. but it's written as wholly worth it, with some of the text expressing excitement at the first hints of changes, the nubs that will eventually start to be wings. this also happens to be the most often-chosen ending across the playerbase