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dante
@dante

i loved doom 2016 so much. so so much.

i quit out of doom eternal after the first like three hours and went back and played every single retro Doom game I could find (1, 64, 2, a bunch of wads). doom eternal felt like an embarrassment. one of the worst sequels in modern history


CoolTimesOnline
@CoolTimesOnline

I'm so glad cohost has normal people on it that also recognize Eternal was an overcomplicated, vision-less mess that can't hold a candle to 2016

I also played the shit out of 2016 and then put in like 2 hours into Eternal before putting it down forever


Beancatte
@Beancatte
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ETPC
@ETPC

to this day i want a postmortem on eternal's story so bad. like what the fuck happened. this could not have been the plan. i refuse to believe that. eternal's story feels like the third game in a trilogy where the second game never came out.



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God I'm super pissed off at Eternal especially because it released right after lockdown hit so I NEEDED it to be good, I needed it so BAD, and then it had the absolute TEMERITY to be the shit that it was. I don't think I made it two hours in. I'm the Doomslayer you dumb cunts I'm here for the extreme heavy metal power fantasy and you're turning me into a wavedashing speedrunner. Fuck you

It’s wild to me how divisive the game is.

I didn’t play either but a best friend is an Eternal nightmare streamer and loves the intricate technical combat of Eternal. He thought 2016 was fun but kind of simple.

Feels like half the community wanted Eternal to lean further into power fantasy and the other half wanted it to lean further into arcade technical shooter.

It’s a bummer the writing suffered.

I didn’t enjoy Eternal at all. I appreciate that every Doom game tries to be a different thing but the new changes and enemies ruined the pacing and it sounds like with the DLC they didn’t listen to the feedback at all and just heard “oh, people are just complaining because it’s too hard for them” and that wasn’t it at all.

Oh well, at least there’s a bunch of other Dooms I can play instead

Dash
Second dash
Flamethrower
Grenade
Other grenade
Blood punch
Chainsaw
The grappling hook on the super shotgun
That sword the plot gives you

All meters you need to manage. In a fast paced shooter. It's astounding. I felt like I was crazy for not liking it in 2020, but I'm glad to hear so many others felt the same.

its interesting because like i dont like 2016 either because i think the level design is really clumsy and not well thought out (looking at you furnace level with your blue key hidden on a corpse amongst the millions of other corpses in the same room)

but wowza was eternal a complete step in the wrong direction. the level design was frankly even worse (love too be lost only to realize that theres wallclimb areas that are literally blending in to the background), but then theres also all this shit like fifty bajillion things to keep track of and use, a need to constantly glory kill lest you run out of anything, enemy hoardes that feel like they really wanted it to be like serious sam for some reason, forced platforming with movement tech that REALLY felt like it wasnt built for that kinda sutff...

honestly the excessive amount of stuff you have on you is my biggest pick simply because i just cannot keep track of all of that shit, its absurd. you dont need that much shit. im not someone who only wants minimalism in fpses or whatever but just, scale it back a bit please.

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In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.

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