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We'll be seeing an official, combined writer/actor strike beginning later today, as SAG-AFTRA's contract has unsurprisingly lapsed with no deal. Says SAG-AFTRA:

In the face of the AMPTP’s intransigence and delay tactics, SAG-AFTRA’s negotiating committee voted unanimously to recommend to the National Board a strike of the Producers-SAG-AFTRA TV/Theatrical/Streaming Contracts which expired July 12, 2023, at 11:59 p.m. PT.

SAG-AFTRA’s National Board will vote Thursday morning on whether to strike.

This will functionally shut down all remaining scripted film and TV productions, effective from the moment the strike begins today.

As an interesting aside: the last time both the WGA and SAG-AFTRA were on strike at the same time was 1960, and at the time Ronald Reagan was still an actor and SAG's president. It's been a long time since the industry has seen its two major unions strike as one, and it's hard to say which side will crack first with this being the case.



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Okay, so adding the actors into the mix is interesting. LLMs were never going to replace writers if you care about quality, debatable if executives do care of course, though I could totally see them thinking that they could and try it. But actors, what the hell are they going to do about that? Hire more CGI artists to animate entire scenes at dramatically increased cost? At the rate this is going I wouldn't be surprised if artists start striking too.

This feels like it's going to lead to the collapse of the entire damn industry at this rate (and obviously nothing will have improved for anyone)

I'm not entirely sure about this, I haven't looked into any research, but I wonder if it's ultimately cheaper just to pay people more so your entire industry doesn't self-destruct out of nowhere. That sounds like it makes way too much sense for executives though

The core demand isn't just more pay, it's basically to completely shut down the "AI" business model. Both unions have a demand based on getting residuals from any AI content made using models trained on their work/likenesses. That would entirely remove the whole incentive (theft) to bother with the technology (in the stupid and low quality way it is currently bothered with) at all for the executives. And the law is on the side of the thieves.

The industry won't collapse. The people who own it have functionally infinite money as a class. There will likely be some infighting on the owners' side, but the real question is, how many people will give in to the idea of a chance at stardom, fame, fortune, and take up offers of scab jobs? IATSE isn't striking (for the moment, but their contract with the alliance of motion picture producers goes through next year), production could still go. (IATSE members are protected by contract if they refuse to cross picket lines but they aren't required to not cross and inevitably some might for need of money.)

The question is if the public reaction to this action will side with ownership (remember, most people believe the propaganda of our society that legitimizes private property relations), or if a sense of class solidarity breaks out (possible, given the momentum of shifting sentiment) and people who aren't in unions start actively supporting union actions with money, food, etc. It's that kind of transition between energy states that could be a revolutionary phase change for the USA. I don't know if the writers and actors are interested in changing society on a fundamental level though, so I doubt they'll apply their broad social reach towards any explicitly revolutionary messaging. Meaning, messages of radical change.

What remains to be seen is what predictions will be wrong. I expect to be proven wrong about many things, that's how time works. I hope I'm proven wrong about the pessimistic things.