psilocervine

but wife city is two words

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I've been seeing this statement more and more and I'm really kinda tired of it? I get it, I get what they're saying, but it's an entirely bullshit sentiment that exists more as a contrarian attempts to shut conversations down than anything else. It completely ignores what peoples issues are with algorithmically curated timelines are in favour of extremely online "well actually" behaviour

Is it technically correct? Sure, kinda, I guess, but only in a way where it's a real fuckin' dramatic stretch of the definition! When people are talking about algorithms, they're talking about opaque behaviour that's entirely outside of their control, that changes against their will, that people can game to their advantage if they just figure out the hidden rules. It's shit like how YouTube thumbnails are weird and off putting in different ways every few months, how for a while on twitter t-shirts we're THE BIGGEST THING IN THE WORLD

But it's never been "sixty seconds to a minute, sixty minutes to an hour." Time is extremely scruitable, effectively everyone always has something that tells them what time it is at a glance, we are grounded in the linear march of time whether we like it or not!

But

More than that

When we follow somebody and they share something, that is no more an algorithmic expression than AI art is actually creative. The other person on the end of that is a person with their own thoughts and experiences. We can get to know them, talk to them, understand them via what they share. We can get a feel for their interests and all those things can drive how we choose to involve them in our lives! You can't do that with an algorithm because the algorithm will always just be math

So no, a chronological timeline is not "an algorithm too" unless you're just trying to shut down complaints about algorithms


psilocervine
@psilocervine

When we follow somebody and they share something, that is no more an algorithmic expression than AI art is actually creative. The other person on the end of that is a person with their own thoughts and experiences. We can get to know them, talk to them, understand them via what they share. We can get a feel for their interests and all those things can drive how we choose to involve them in our lives! You can't do that with an algorithm because the algorithm will always just be math


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Also, crucially, once a website has placed you in a certain demographic algorithm it is basically impossible to get out of it.

I've been trying to get Youtube to stop recommending me GameGrumps and OneyPlays and Scott the Woz and shit for years. Going to their Youtube channels and disliking hundreds of their videos doesn't work; clicking "do not recommend" > "I don't like the video" doesn't work, and some channels don't even give you the "don't recommend channel" option, such as those. I assume once a channel has passed a certain threshold of popularity? Genuinely no clue. I finally got fed up and just installed a browser extension that removes the algorithm entirely.

Meanwhile, if I decide I no longer want to see content from someone I follow on Cohost, I just unfollow them.

I've joked about this offhanded in the past, but I'm always EXTREMELY wary of liking music by japanese bands on youtube music because I know there's like a 99% chance it'll look at me doing that and go "oh, this bitch wants to listen to NOTHING BUT ANIME OPS"

like a band came up once, never heard of them. mongol800, really liked their stuff because they had a sort of good sound to them that I really enjoy from a lot of japanese punk bands. I think, for a moment, that youtube music will assume I want more stuff like that

youtube music, instead, decided I wanted to listen to renai circulation and then two different my hero academia ops in a row

and honestly? the worst thing? I think that music services are one of the places where algorithmic stuff makes SENSE