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JuniperTheory
@JuniperTheory

does anyone know what's actually up with nintendo's endless weird DMCAs?

it seems like they're happening WAY more then normal, and that they're always really scattershot and weird and just hitting random stuff

idk i just wonder why


JuniperTheory
@JuniperTheory

like, the VIMM's lair takedowns were so scattershot and didn't even hit half their games. and they're going after things like gmod mods? it doesn't feel like what an actual company would do , it feels like random angry fans impersonating them but every single time it HAPPENS the people who got hit with the takedown go "we have no comment it's official we're taking everything down". why are they acting like this, what da hell


RenaKunisaki
@RenaKunisaki

yeah it's bizarre how they've just suddenly ramped it up to 11

makes me wonder if they're planning something for the next console? or the lawyers were just feeling extra hungry?

(insert the usual argument about how they're legally in the right, need to do it to prevent losing trademark even though other companies do it far less and are fine, etc etc etc), despite all that it still seems like they're being way more aggressive than necessary and for what? To make their fans hate them?


psilocervine
@psilocervine

the trademark thing is largely a myth in this context anyway. none of these sites have ever been doing anything that would actually threaten nintendo's trademark, there's no genericide or dilution happening here. the entire thing is that nintendo has always had a really aggressive stance towards piracy. like, from the days of the famicom/nes, they've always been as aggressive as they can be


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i honestly have no idea. i feel like there's probably some mixture of nintendo themselves doing DMCAs and malicious people who are just pretending to be nintendo, but the fact there's no way to tell feels like another sign that the copyright system is outdated at best and needs to be revised

She, far more politely than he deserved, called out a guy for mansplaining her job to her. (Seriously, she was mildly snarky, at worst) Then he played the victim card while accusing her of doing the same, lied about what actually happened, and managed to stir up a harassment mob that got her fired.

Like Nintendo is a great example but this is seriously how it feel about how all the companies are acting. Yes, yes "declining rate of profit driving rent-seeking" is why but like we really are in the "what are you going to do? shoot me?" phase and there must be a more explicit reason why.

I've heard before that a lot of copyright enforcement bolsters your arguments in court by demonstrating the value/unassailability of the brand. Like, "we sued everyone who made garfield shirts without permission and this is no different." Letting stuff slide means missing an opportunity to build precedence, I think?

so i think it's lawyers doing what could amount to "routine maintenance" by being overzealous. The possibility that Nintendo could try to cash in on excitebike one day means that a passionate fan doing a remake in another engine is a Potential Threat

It all still boils down to "they trying to capitalize on nostalgia and want it to be impossible to get your fix anywhere else." But I think this might explain why they're such assholes about it. Possibly. This is speculation

Oh also like...I couldn't tell you exactly how, but I feel like one element that must be in play here, is how instrumental the donkey kong lawsuit was to their history.. Like when you think about how Kirby got his name, and then consider how incredibly important and valuable their IP is, it does make a bit more sense.

Not less shitty. But if we're looking for an explanation.

e: oh right, and they're about to move onto a new console, and uh, i feel like the disaster of the wii u made nintendo even more obsessed with the bankable ip that saved them. They're about to enter a new era and things could go very wrong. Nintendo often comes off to me like an incredibly paranoid and aggressive dog refusing to let anyone near their bowl. It must be terrified of starving, if it's snapping at so many friendly faces. I dunno. They suck but this is about why they suck, right?

my pet theory is that nintendo might be jerks about it, but they'd just as well leave stuff alone if people weren't actively reporting stuff to them - and we have witnessed the rise of a particularly infuriating Kind Of Guy who will force action against things they don't like by directly informing corpo-legal about them.

Wasn't the Vimm's lair thing done by an AI? If you can send out DMCA's and people just crumble instead of scrutinize it, all the more better.
Also someone else pointed out this happened a bit before they announced something so they could cover it up with "Hey look everyone a new toy!!" like how Blizzard got everyone to forget about the sexual abuse by tossing out Overwatch stuff.

I wish these places had a bit more spine to look at the email (if it was really legal they'd most likely send it in actual snail mail) and go "Yeah no, they have to send a real actual lawyer."