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yrgirlkv
@yrgirlkv

well, you heard it here first, folks


thaliarchus
@thaliarchus

Now wondering whether this is a case of shared ancestry in a longer-term idiom, or of a more ephemeral catchphrase of the 90s.

(Yes, there's a horse in G Gundam which pilots a horse; don't worry about it.)

EDIT — @mojilove has an answer in the comments: it's a pre-existing idiom, origins unknown.


uncreativecat
@uncreativecat

thinking about bandai namco executives right now for some reason


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I didn't know this until today, but it's an idiom of unknown origin: 人の恋路を邪魔する奴は馬に蹴られて死んじまえ
It's said to have been coined in the end of the Edo period (so around the first half of the 19th century)

oh neat! I don't think I'd heard of the dodoitsu poetic form before today; and then looking at the other examples of dodoitsu I also had to go read about Buddhist cosmology and what metaphorical beef a sex worker might have with crows (三千世界の 鴉を殺し ぬしと朝寝が してみたい). a fun way to start my sunday morning lol

ok, so! dodoitsu is a poetic/musical form consisting of 4 lines with 7, 7, 7, and 5 mora ("syllables" isn't exactly right, but close enough). the horse idiom follows this form: hito no koiji wo / jama suru yatsu wa / uma ni kerarete / shinjimae

another dodoitsu song is sanzensekai no / karasu wo koroshi / nushi to asane ga / shite mitai – "I want to kill every crow in the universe and sleep in together with you". three possible explanations I found were:

  • "the crows are loud, I can't sleep"
  • "when the crows caw, it's time for you to leave, but I want you to stay with me"
  • it's a reference to folklore about the crows of Kumano Shrine dying when a promise is broken – "I want to stay with you even if it means breaking every promise I've made to other men"

(also, the cosmology bit: the word I'm translating as "universe" is literally "three-thousand-world". this is apparently a Buddhist term, where there's a thousand of our world in the Lesser Thousand Worlds, and then a thousand of those in the Middle Thousand Worlds, and then a thousand of those in the Greater Thousand Worlds, aka the Three Thousands Worlds, which I think is the extent of the domain that a single Buddha can guide to enlightenment? The More You Know 🌠)

Oh right, I didn't realise it was a dodoitsu! Thanks for pointing that out, and for the explanation you gave about the example you found. I don't know so much about dodoitsu but I really enjoy their bluntness!

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