did you know that every movie that comes out is still pressed on DVD? at this point you can get virtually everything (as long as the license isn't in limbo) on DVD, from the beginning of cinema to the latest releases. i do not think this will ever change, I think DVD is here to stay, forever.
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in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:
the best blu-rays are basically just the DVD of a thing but with the main feature at higher resolution / nicer encoding (shout out to menus that you can actually interact with using a PC mouse!!), so I think everything you're saying here checks out
Like, I've long thought that the winners in the so-called HD-DVD/Blu-ray format war were actually either DVD or nothing so I'm glad to see other people argue such that my opinion probably isn't a symptom of me being insane
lmao, i had actually made the "the winner of the format war was DVD" assertion before but i forgot it, thank you for the reminder
DVD is solid but the reason bluray market penetration isn't higher is that computers don't come ready to play bluray out of the box like they did with DVD for a long time. The most popular DVD players were game consoles and that still holds true for Bluray, but you could also watch them on your windows PC after a point painlessly. And also streaming has largely dominated the HD video market.
i mean... among 1% of 1% of the market perhaps, but I don't think I've ever heard of a Normal Person playing a DVD in their computer. i'm pretty sure 99.99% of the market just owns hardware players plugged into their TV and doesn't even know this was ever an option.
It was incredibly common, especially when houses usually had one good tv and that's where the standalone player or PS2 was. Good TV already taken? Fine let's watch it on my laptop.
Our first DVD player was a Compaq desktop in maybe 1999. None of us in the house were really computer nerds at the time, and I'm not sure if my dad went out of his way to get one of these new DVD drives assuming it'd be important or if it just happened to come with the desktop he wanted. But I remember all of us gathering around and watching The Sixth Sense on that thing and being impressed with the clarity. That said, we'd only occasionally rent something for that, since the family computer wasn't ideal for watching a film, and we stopped bothering once we got a proper DVD player or a PS2 (I forget which was first).
I also feel like watching a DVD on your laptop was a relatively normal thing when I was in college (2004-2008). It was probably never really the most popular way to do it, but I feel like it was more than just nerds.
Anecdotal, but my parents are resolutely normal people and their first contact with watching film/TV at home was DVD: they didn't have a television, so when we got a computer with a DVD player it suddenly meant they could use the local library's DVDs to revisit films they remembered from their childhoods &c. If I had to guess, I'd guess that you're not wrong about it being a small proportion of the population who used computer drives to play DVDs, but perhaps more than 1%.
yeah, I'm thinking about it more and, given the full court marketing press that DVD playback on PC's got, and the fact that you could just pop a disc in the drive and there was a 95% chance it would simply work on any computer made after like 2002, I guess I can believe that non-enthusiasts realized this was possible.
From like 2000-2015 it was pretty common. Not your first choice if there was a better set up available, but it was a workable option. Netflix streaming in 2007 and the Macbook Air with no drive in 2008 started the trends that would really eat into the physical media market.
Yeah, up until my family upgraded from a 2007 Mac Mini to a 2014 Mac Mini (which has no disc drive), the family computer was our primary DVD player (DVD duties got taken over by the PS2 after that). My parents have always just kept their computer plugged straight into the TV though, so I have no idea how common that really was.
Possibly, but I remember around 2002 or so that everyone was playing up interactive DVD-ROM features on their releases, or at least WB was. Like "plug this thing into your computer and it'll do cool stuff", and at least some of them included player software on the disc
That's part of a (still ongoing) research and collection project that I have been working on for several years. Some early DVDs actually included very basic playback software that required... Internet Explorer. And decoding capabilities, either via a software decoding card or built in codecs later on. A few even included games that played along with the DVD!
Unfortunately for the company that made these (PCFriendly / Interactual Technologies)... Microsoft realized that the things they did to get that working were also insane security vulnerabilities, so AFAIK, they eventually blocked them via patches (probably unintentionally?) And so they stopped including DVD playback features and just included boring websites or links to external sites.
DVDs are a bit more than a single piece of injection molded plastic, there's a layer of reflective material and another piece of plastic which all gets glued together like a sandwich
oh right right yeah sorry i thought they didn't go to the two-slice approach until BD
Nope, sandwiches all the way down. That's why certain brands and runs of writable media get disc rot while others don't, they weren't sealed as well as they should be and a bit of oxygen sneaks in and starts damaging the metal layer which is just an incredibly thin film.
another benefit of DVDs being eternal is that occasionally PS2 games get repressed and it bring a tear to my eye every time.
genuinely think more companies should do a light repress of their games more. Just order the minimum quantity, throw em on amazon. You can buy a new in box copy of SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2 for 30 bucks. And I'm 100% fine with paying 30 bucks for a new copy of a 20 year old game any day over paying some retro collector dipshit 100 bucks on ebay. (to be fair I'm never gonna do that, I'm just gonna get the iso.)
Don't see how companies don't see how dumb the retro game market is and just do a quick reprint to undercut it. I know its because there isn't billions of dollars in it, but still! Its free money, its free real estate!
DVDs also upscale to 1080p really well with a good player, the PS3 especially is legendary for its DVD upscaling to the point where I forget I'm not watching a blu-ray sometimes.
ok so it's not just my imagination, the ps3 is just an insanely good dvd player. i still have mine hooked up w/ the bd remote and everything because it's just so good at it.
We've never really been into movies, but our dad is, and he stopped buying blurays 'cause they're more expensive. Yeah, they're technically better, but the difference isn't enough to justify the price to him even with the sunk cost of the bluray player.
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Yeah, wrt HD being an "enthusiast feature" still, I'm thinking about how the only companies I've seen drop DVD to go Blu-Ray only have been anime companies and other enthusiast companies. They can count on 95% of their customers having BD players and not needing to split their releases across two platforms. But that's because they're in a niche of a niche.
The actual only reason I've considered upgrading to Blu-Ray is because I've seen fewer and fewer box sets of shows pressing to DVD,
And I keep getting so frustrated that it's for so little actual utility that I end up ditching the whole idea for months at a time and kicking thar can further down the road, haha!
Here's something: the people who still buy and watch DVDs don't know what bluray is.
It looks like a DVD but someone told them it won't work in their dvd player, and it's more expensive too. So they just look confused and think it’s weird and put it back on the shelf.
Perfect clueless grandma format
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