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ROTSHARP, mirror-ape ogre @rotsharp7/7/2023, 4:26 PM

i try not to judge people too much for their specific language, as opposed to impact and position, but i get a little less 🙄 and a little more 😱 every time i see someone talk about america "becoming" fascist or "descending into" fascism

we have prison camps for children here and drive most of the military conflict around the world with our one thousand foreign bases (not to mention our militarized vassals), what is the exact sign you are looking for that you dont see now, with the plague and the rising seas and the police who engage in human trafficking and legalized banditry?

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Quidam @Quidam7/7/2023, 4:40 PM

To me, this is a nation state doing nation state thing: they are all founded on violence. Saying that the US is not fascist is simply saying that the mechanism by which operate is slightly different than the one used by fascism. It is not a value judgment; the value judgment is they they suck and are doing evil things. But I want to be careful with words like fascism simply because they can help us identify how a country operate, as opposed to another type of regime.
Fascism is not a coherent ideology, it is authoritarian or anti-authoritarian depending on the situation, so of course the word get applied to a lot of varied situation, but the ways it enact violence are a bit different than in the standard neo-liberal paradigm.

ROTSHARP, mirror-ape ogre @rotsharp7/7/2023, 4:47 PM

i think that caring about the specific use of a term among people who cannot help but to operate in bad faith is a waste of energy, myself

american liberals are not applying any rigor when they say this and not a one of them to a person could describe an aspect of whatever they think fascism is that isnt already happening here, either because they are truly and willfully ignorant of what this country does or because they think it is justified when we do it but not another. this is the point of my question. you do not need this question, but lots of people still do.

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