ryusui

Ryusui

@ryusui

"It's the greatest day."

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maker of tiny games | navigator of retail chaos | artist | FFXIV fan (Ryusui Teira@Brynhildr) | he/him | trans rights are human rights | death to crypto

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theophage
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Codarobo
@Codarobo

Hey does this mean we can go back to hating copyright though, i liked when we all agreed copyright was a bad system instead of one we need to expand

I feel like we’ve just been through a bizarre period of copyright becoming inexplicably popular amongst creative leftist types online because of AI stuff and while I’m sympathetic to that I think copyright is, on balance, much worse

MoxieCat
@MoxieCat

"Artists should have control over how their work is used, as a matter of basic respect!"
Yeah!!

"Therefore we should strengthen the laws that major corporations have exploited for decades to gain a stranglehold on creative industries and keep certain artists on a leash."
Wait, no, hold on-

fullmoon
@fullmoon

I feel like a lot of people don't want to admit that the motive that drives indie creators to seek copyright is the same motive that drives corporations to seek copyright.

theophage
@theophage

it really isn't

wanting to be paid for your work is not the same as wanting to maintain a pointless stranglehold on an idea for no reason but to prevent others from using it in order to squeeze as many coins out of it as possible

ryusui
@ryusui

shepherd likes the fence because it keeps the wolf at bay

wolf likes the fence because now the sheep have nowhere to run

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in reply to @Codarobo's post:

xkeeper
@xkeeper

copyright has always been dogshit but i think there is definitely room for "copyright sucks ass and is way too long" and "we shouldn't allow everyone's creative work to be hoovered up by a machine to avoid copyright"

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Codarobo
@Codarobo

I don’t disagree, there’s just been for a couple years a lot of people explicitly cheering for US courts to expand copyright in cases related to ai. I think there should be other avenues for regulation besides copyright

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widr
@widr

there should, yet there aren't. copyright is presently just about the only law on the books that purportedly confers the rights to the fruit of one's own labor (which is obviously why most places you lose any and all copyright to anything done during work, on company equipment, or even (in texas) while you have a job at all)

it's a vile tool of capitalists and it's also all we have. master's tools master's house moment 📸

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Codarobo
@Codarobo

That’s totally it for me. Benn Jordan made a video awhile back that really resonated with me about how AI generation
(in the context of the music industry, specifically, since that’s his area of expertise) was small fish compared to… everything the big labels have been doing to artists since literally the beginning of the industry, and that even if you could get rid of it entirely, it really doesn’t fix what was already deeply fucked. Strengthening copyright is a devil’s bargain to give those corporations even more power over people actually making stuff, in ways that will outlast the current trend in AI.

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Dragaroths-hideaway
@Dragaroths-hideaway

a lot of people just think the same thing is different when the people they don't like use it.

the same people usually don't like taking stances like, "instead of completely destroying something why don't we try to yknow, fix it over time."

it causes a lot of fuss.

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ireneista
@ireneista

we're honestly just more sympathetic to it when it's a single person, heh

we realize there are lots of times when it winds up exactly the same way in the long run, but we like to give people the benefit of the doubt. the system does kinda demand people protect themselves :/

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