shel

The Transsexual Chofetz Chaim

Mutant, librarian, poet, union rabble rouser, dog, Ashkenazi Jewish. Neuroweird, bodyweird, mostly sleepy.


I write about transformative justice, community, love, Judaism, Neurodivergence, mental health, Disability, geography, rivers, labor, and libraries; through poetry, opinionated essays, and short fiction.


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shel
@shel

I wonder what it will take for people to learn that it's weird and uncomfortable and achieves nothing positive to just directly tell strangers in the internet about how sad you are. Like I just don't really get what is accomplished by this. What is even being sought?

Like, I have a lot of very negative experiences and circumstances in my life that were quite traumatic and awful but what do I or anyone get out of telling strangers about it?

Do you expect a response from me where I say something that makes you feel better? Because I'm not doing that. If you feel like you wasted your youth that's on you buddy. I feel I spent my youth well just by keeping myself alive, personally speaking.

Or do they just forget that whatever they put in my comments is sent directly to me and shown to me for me to read? That they're not just blogging in their own space but actually saying things directly into my inbox? Do they think I'm not reading what they say?

I know this is the autism website and everyone's social skills suck but I don't even understand what's happening here that you'd need a social skill to know not to do it. Like what is the enjoyed benefit of saying it in my comments versus on your own blog? Are you just not thinking? Are you trying to make me uncomfortable on purpose?

I swear I should just start blocking people for this. It's the only way to make people stop doing it.


shel
@shel

To summarize and clarify;

  1. You can be sad online like, on your own blog, with people you know, etc. but don't just send it to strangers in their asks or DMs. Don't put it directly in their notifications.

  2. This is one of those parasocial relationship things. You're forgetting that we are real people on here. Would you say this to my face?


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in reply to @shel's post:

I think that's an incredibly valid reason to block someone. I think being on the internet is way more bearable when you are more inclined to filter out stuff that isn't what you want.

I don't agree with that at all, even a little bit.
If you make a decision based on the information I just gave you, I'm glad to have been helpful. (For real, I am genuinely glad. If people see me and think "I don't want to interact with that person", I think that is valid.)

This is about proactively sending venting to strangers via asks or comments instead of posting it on your own feed. That's not people seeing you, that's you throwing your vent at someone else you've never met before.

It really shouldn't be on the stranger to block you vs on you to not vent at them and instead vent on your own profile or with friends.

idk, i think we're all just screaming into the void here. Any text input field on the internet counts as the void. If it screams back, all the better. I'm not saying that's a good way to internet, but I think it's definitely how people do it, realistically. I think it's absolutely correct to block a person if you don't like an interaction.

My inbox is, in fact, not "the void" and I am not "the void." Everyone on the internet is a real person who you are speaking to and the things you say to them cause reactions in them emotionally. If you want "the void" say it on your own blog or in a journal or something, not into someone's inbox

Or do they just forget that whatever they put in my comments is sent directly to me and shown to me for me to read? That they're not just blogging in their own space but actually saying things directly into my inbox? Do they think I'm not reading what they say?

I think this is exactly it. Main character syndrome of some kind.

A lot of behavior has the general vibe of "doesn't understand there's another full, real person on the other end" and yeah, the more I pick up on it the more I just want to block people. I think another way it happens is someone is just really doing poorly, has no one IRL to talk to, and is desperate for an outlet. Which also, not great for anyone!

This was me once upon a time, and it definitely, horridly sucks. I'm thankfully not in a position where I'm in desperate need of venting, nor do I get randomly traumadumped (anymore), but it's hard for me to know what to say cause I've been on that other side and feel it hard.

in reply to @shel's post:

I think sometimes people, if they're isolated enough and online enough, can lose sight of the differences between strangers, acquaintances and friends. remembering the time i was told "i thought we were friends" by someone i had spoken to one time over a year prior

I remember back when me and some of my friends were a Big Visible Twitter Clique there was this one user who replied to all of our posts with this like really overly personal vibe and would overshare and speculate about our relationships and sex lives, would tweet on their own TL about our lives, and like... none of us ever interacted with them... we just ignored them... until they crossed a line for someone and someone blocked them and then they just became obsessive like "wait I thought we were all this one big friend group? Why did they block me? Hey guys? Can one of you talk to them about why they blocked me?" and was DMing everyone (for the first time they'd ever DM'd any of us) asking us to ask that one person to unblock them and it went for like.... years... obsessing over how they'd been blocked and "iced out by their friends" and just... none of us knew them at all. None of us followed them. They'd just followed a bunch of people who knew each other and then convinced themself that their twitter feed was like, the groupchat with all of "their friends." For many of us, their replies had never even crossed the "quality filter" to appear in our notifications and we had no idea that they were there.