its always baffling to me when people who are pro abortion and talk about how "people will do it anyways, just more dangerously" will be against transabled people having safe medical transition and will literally bring up people who have died trying to disable themself. yeah i fucking wonder what would have helped that. huh.
like so many people legitimately do not care about their point or even have them internalized beyond a basic understanding that allows them to repeat it to people. its how you find people reusing the same bigoted statements USED AGAINST THEM to harass queerer queers.