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neon-time
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estrogen-and-spite
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If you need further evidence of the wolf thing being wrong: the man who came up with it spent the rest of his life denouncing his own theory and trying to convince people not to repeat it.

There are animals that exhibit strict hierarchy. Ants, bees, and wasps for example. Horses have very rigid herds. Birds of a feather flock together but chickens will peck and scratch and cluck until someone is on top. Wonder why the alpha male types never use prey animals and insects to preach their ideology?

But another thing (in agreement with OP above): I never liked arguing “it’s natural” as a point for or against something. Natural for humans involves being naked in warm but not too hot environments and eating berries, nuts, and bugs. Eating meat involves two of the earliest technology humans have, thrown object and fire. And while that sounds nice, I would be functionally blind without glasses, so I would hate existing without them. But anything other than naked ape in warm area is unnatural.

Even if humans default to hierarchy because of nature, I don’t think our modern humans need to confirm into it: either we can overcome our nature through using the minds we’ve evolved, or we can return to our nature using the same organ.

The biggest benefit to having a mind like ours is that we can use them: we have a way to counteract our natural impulses or decide that some natural impulses are good. We can realize that we get stronger and smarter by stabbing an elk and cooking it than by eating bugs, we can realize we get more berries if we grow them ourselves rather than wander around looking for them, we can realize we can eat an rather meh food plant by grinding parts of it just right and making bread, we can attach abstract meanings to the sounds we make and then realize that the symbols we make of things can also mean the sounds of things and thus have writing. None of that is inherent to being human, that’s all stuff we figured out and modified to suit our needs.

Social constructs are like any other technology. We need not rely on natural or not: we can just ask “is this what we need?”


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in reply to @neon-time's post:

I hadn't heard the wolf thing was a case of no correlation - I'd heard it was a case of observation of abberant behavior exhibited in capitivity, which then implies a degree of malice when extrapolated to human behavior, such that our systems (which, as we know from the foucalt quote, all resemble prisons) are designed to foster this heirarchical alpha bullshit

What are your opinions on the dictatorship of the proletariat?

See I like and agree with all you said, but I also think we should organize to take down the bourgeoisie and make everyone equals.