sirocyl

noted computer gremlinizer

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"accidentally-vengeful telco nerd"
—Tom Scott

platform sec researcher, OS dev, systems architect, composer; Other (please specify). vintage computer/electronics nut.

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tercel-enby
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I'm curious, how many different plastics issues are there, in various hobbies? There's the rubbery coating all tech enthusiasts know and hate, and also the more universal issue of yellowed plastics. But there's many others, in other hobbies- Lego enthusiasts have to deal with brittle brown, a pigment issue that resulted in reddish brown (and related color) bricks being incredibly brittle, often cracking when installed or removed. Transformers had to deal with the similar Gold Plastic Syndrome, where gold pigment caused several models to become so brittle they can be crushed in your hand. (R.I.P. Randy). And the final one I can think of is with several cars and trucks, plastic dashboards from the late 90s and early 2000s are infamous for developing large, ugly cracks that eventually just destroy the whole large, expensive piece. Can y'all think of any other examples?

This also happens for other materials, of course. Zamak pest is a terminal issue associated with Zamac, an alloy of zinc that, if containing lead impurities, will crystalize and literally crumble to pieces like a stale cookie. It was primarily associated with early (1960 and before) diecast toys and trains, but tainted batches also afflict model train frames from the 80s, and diecast car bodies from much later.


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in reply to @tercel-enby's post:

Seems to be most 2005-2006 Nintendo handhelds, the plastic goes yellow all the way through and then very brittle. Most DS Phats have broken hinges now and I had a baby blue SP that just crumbled in my hands. Good quality SP replacement shells are available but not so much for the DS.

Also famous for brittle ABS plastic: Apple and Toshiba laptops of the 90s. Poor hinge designs with all the force of opening the lid transmitted through the plastic.

High density polyethylene, abs, and polycarbonate are all extremely susceptible to UV damage, though they manifest in different ways. ABS (toolboxes, car dashboards) will get chalky and brittle, poly (security windows, boat windows) will yellow, lose its resilience against impact and develop small fractures all over (crazing), and HDPE (cutting boards, boat parts) will degrade till it cracks and crumbles away.

The most common yellowing in most plastics is from inclusion of styrene in the plastic blend, since it's so incredibly susceptible. This is your classic PC case yellowing. Acrylics used to have styrene in the blend before they switched to pmma monomers, that is to say, a pure acrylic with no other plastics in the blend. Modern acrylics don't decay that way but if you look at plastic windows on an old boat they'll be yellow and crazed like whoa.

3D printing feels like nothing but dealing with the oddities of your chosen plastic.

As an example, PLA absorbs humidity and that can affect print quality, so ideally filament is stored in an air right container with dessicant. PLA slowly deforms under load, but is also relatively brittle. Despite all this is the preferred material for a lot of people because the other options have even bigger considerations.

my 2011 Camry has an issue where the OEM plastic matting on the dashboard has gone rubbery at first, and is now something of a slimy goop and easy to damage. I've been considering ripping the whole dash out and reupholstering it with a carpet or seat mat fabric or something. it'd been in direct Florida sun for years before I picked it up though, so that's probably got a lot to do with it (I'm surprised the rest of the car hasn't sublimated into ooze)

Cassette deck belts either dry up & crack or turn into sticky goo, and nylon gears can shrink, warp or crack especially when they are on steel shafts and the gear shrinks but the center shaft doesn't.

PVC plasticizers can also react badly with copper wire over time and create a horrible green oil that leaks out the ends. Oh and cords wound tightly around a device can eat into the plastic if stored somewhere hot.

I'm mostly familiar with Bionicle and Transformers; GPS is infamous among Transformers, but clear plastic is a close second if only because the brittle-ness hasn't been solved. So any hinge or any part undergoing mechanical stress made of clear plastic is almost always gonna snap.

Bionicle also had issues with lime green being brittle, to the point that lime green sockets snap 9 times out of 10 when inserting a ball joint.

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