talking with neighbor as they're out working in their yard, they wanna do clover lawn because it keeps itself short [and sometimes people walk around on their lawn] - but they also said they're interested in native plants. Sooo.... I subtly implied we could get them some plants. I am gonna do some research and advice-asking about a native groundcover that can get stepped on and keeps itself short. a friend once mentioned path rush to me. I know some phloxes are super popular.,, gotta do research.