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This was a REALLY weird movie. I'm still processing it.

Ok so... a paper-maker with a martial arts past accidentally defends his village from some bandits, which brings attention to him and ends up with a lot of people suffering and fighting. That's a pretty standard martial arts plot, right? Except, the attention comes from this nosy fucking investigator who RUINS THE LIVES OF EVERYONE HE MEETS. Like, no joke, if this fucking cop didn't stick his nose into everyone's business, Donnie Yen wouldn't have had a single problem.

The bizarre thing is that the investigator has absolutely no reason to investigate. There's no CRIME. Donnie Yen defended his village and killed two wanted criminals. The magistrate even says "ok, sounds good, case closed." This investigator ASSUMES that is only possible because he's a wanted criminal, something with zero support or evidence. Is it weird that Donnie yen, a paper-maker, killed these two? Yes it is. But it's such a strange leap in logic and has no set-up. It really makes the film have a shaky foundation, since so much time is spent investigating Donnie Yen's past. You as the audience is left going "whyyyyyy is he investigating? What even is there to investigate?" The film is missing a scene where the investigator says to the magistrate "something suspicious is happening, I'm requesting permission to investigate this man" or some obvious piece of evidence earlier on.

Normally I wouldn't have this much of a problem with a wuxia movie having a less-than-stellar plot, but a full hour and a half is spent on this pointless investigation with no action. There's three fight scenes in total in the film and to be honest they're not much to write home about. They're trying to do that gritty, grounded "oh look how dirty and unglamorous fighting is" combat but also having characters flying and having skin that blades bounce off of. It doesn't mix well.

The ending is............ very random. It's been a while since I last saw a villain die to a lightning strike (does that sound like a non-sequitur? because it felt VERY random when watching the film). Normally I don't like to spoil the ending to movies I watch, but jesus christ what a strange choice to make in your martial arts film.

Overall, despite all of my criticisms, I still kind of enjoyed it. There were some interesting ideas, like having the investigator go to the first fight scene and recreate the fight in his mind. That being said, I don't think I can recommend this film, which is a shame. I love wuxia and I love mystery and I was hoping this film could combine the two concepts better.


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I really enjoyed this film a lot more the second time round after I watched more wuxia.
It's a Sherlock Holmes/Hercule Poirot like story, with equally outrageous feats of detecting and logicking, except the logic the detective runs on is wuxia lore. (so it might seem his guess that Yen's character is a martial arts master is wild and unsubstantiated, but in his world it's perfectly clear.)
The lightning strike I thought was again a logical solution to a problem of an unbeatable villain.
Yen can't beat him - he couldn't beat him with two arms and now he only has one. The two protagonists have to team up and the detective has to use his wuxia-medical knowledge to find a way to get past the villain's Iron Skin skill. The lightning is then both "reason and science" triumphing over brute force AND a literal punishment from Heaven for the villain's heinous crimes.
The fights I thought were quite good, they went for a more grounded style that nonetheless becomes more wuxia as the film goes on.
(I'm not trying to convince you to like it, btw, just explaining how I understood it.)
Also it's probably one of the best Jimmy Wang Yu performances I've seen. IMO he's a bad actor, a bad martial artist and a terrible leading man. Tastes were different back then.
But as an old villain? He did good.

I still haven't seen The One-Armed Swordsman. I know it's a foundational wuxia film, but some of those 60s wuxia films can be a little slow for my taste (I only got halfway through A Touch of Zen before giving up). I'm just noticing now that Jimmy Wang Yu was in like 50 movies within the span of a decade. That's nuts.

I suppose that I'm not upset about the lightning strike being used as much as I think it's wasted potential. If they had established some lore about lightning having killed someone in the past or maybe whenever the detective goes he is followed by lightning. Just something earlier in the movie so that the lightning strike at the end feels like a payoff.

And like I said, I really would have less hangups about the investigation part if there was a tiny scene where the investigator says to his boss "something isn't right here, I'm going to keep digging".

I REALLY liked the fight scene recreation where the detective figures out that Donnie Yen is secretly a master fighter. The comparison of how the story was told in our initial viewing versus how it REALLY played out was super cool.