stardustreverie

What You Get When the Stars Collide

21yo plural autism, trans girl, professional internet weirdo, late blooming theater kid, video editor, occasional musicker, voice actress in progress, still learning about stuff
emily subsystem will probably be main posters

🐐 - goatmily / emily delta
🍁 - catmily / emily tau
🪐 - omicron(?)

💜 - josie/piece (@pieceofjosie)
🦋 - alex
🔆 - soleil
🪄 - marisa (@marisakirisame)
🖥️ - EMI (@exe-cute-able)
and many more...


discord
@stardust.reverie

kinda wish there was a video streaming site with anti software software club style philosophy. youtube feels like it’s gotten so alienated with the difference between “viewer” and “creator” and everything is Content and nothing is personal anymore and expecting a more personal connection is Parasocial and Evil, and i don’t think there isn’t a place for tightly edited high-effort videos, but we need to platform the equivalent of kids making like “top 10 xbox 720” videos in windows movie maker again


You must log in to comment.

in reply to @stardustreverie's post:

Idk I think parasociality IS a good thing to keep in mind though. Wanting more personal connection from a random video maker you've never seen before IS kinda odd and imposing, y'know?

And like, I find it interesting you're framing it as a "arbitrarily this is decided as bad" and not that parasociality is a term being used to describe how the random imposing of personal connection from the audience to the creator or vice versa without actually socializing with each other directly causes odd circumstances where people act overly intimate or feel entitled to responses and personalized attention

Also look into peertube

well see, thats the thing, like, parasocial relationships have this very loaded connotation to them, which r all the things you described, instead of being like, just another kind of relationship that requires boundaries and respect like any other, yknow? and i think thinking about that as always maladaptive isn’t a very helpful framework
that said you are right abt the odd imposing personal connection stuff and thinking about it i think what i really mean is i want that gap to be bridged so it’s not parasocial and more just. normal social lol
also i will look into peertube 👀

Well that is the thing though: there IS no relationship in a parasocial relationship, because it's being made not by direct conversation and interaction but by reading or watching creative projects. There's no relationship between a random reader of an ao3 fic and the writer, because the author doesn't know who the reader is, or whether they exist.

That's what I'm confused about; I don't see how you could solve that fundamental problem with a video being made, as the writer can't directly interact with people, it's made ahead of time and they can't know who will see it, just like with a book. You don't get to know what someone is like or interact with them via watching a video, you see a filtered, pre-written, and genericized version. The only solution to some of that would be videos being literally made for specific people in the audience, I feel like.

With streaming there's a lot more direct interaction but it's still ultimately just a stream of comments after a certain community size, there's a limit to how many people can talk with someone directly at once before it becomes like that. It's at least realtime, if still filtered by behavioral changes due to being on camera, so it is still able to build a bit more of a relationship.