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Recently appeared on this plane. Last seen: Posting (in a serif font) and/or casting spells. my icon and header image are turned around on purpose actually its not like i dont know how to fix it or anything. my age is private information but if you feel the need to know it presume i'm somewhere between 18 and the age you are and treat me accordingly


DecayWTF
@DecayWTF

We expose a surprising failure of generalization in auto-regressive large language
models (LLMs). If a model is trained on a sentence of the form “A is B”, it will
not automatically generalize to the reverse direction “B is A”. This is the Reversal Curse.

This is an interesting paper showing that, again, the same AI scaling problems that plagued us in the 60s affect modern systems too, but the bias and intent of the researchers shows through so plainly. A "surprising failure of generalization" instead of a more or less expected result of what LLMs actually do (ie, predict which language token could come next) and vague appeals to "well maybe humans have the same problem!!!1"


vogon
@vogon

reminded of how -- iirc from artificial intelligence class in college -- part of what precipitated the first AI winter was a decline of interest in neural networks in favor of symbolic systems1 because it was realized that perceptrons (early, rudimentary precursors to the same AI techniques in favor today) were mathematically incapable of learning the exclusive-or function -- the logical formalization of the concept "A or B but not both"


  1. which everyone eventually lost interest in because building a machine that can reason by hand requires too much work


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The Reversal Curse is robust across model sizes and model families and is not alleviated by data augmentation.

the funniest thing about this is that AI researchers ever thought that making their models larger is going to help, rather than, if anything, alleviating the very same pressures that would conceivably cause the model to generalize in the first place

Oh, I mean, it's not that surprising to me personally, but more... I can't believe the disparity is THAT BAD. Like, even in the direction it can "recall" things, it's a coin flip? Holy shit

the percentages are actually inflated for GPT-4, because they asked each question 10 times, and counted it as successful for that question if the LLM got the right answer even once out of those 10 times

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