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On my end, I want to make it clear that any proposals that don't have a credible story about user trust and safety are dead in the water, and this is basically non-negotiable. I know far too much about the issues involved to be flexible on this point.

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Most of the issues that come with Running A Website aren't code issues. The code is the "easy" part, so open sourcing cohost would do only so much.


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I love open-source, I use open source shit a bunch, I run my own Mastodon instance but... I don't know if I would trust a hypothetical "open source cohost" to keep the "product vision" alive. Maybe it would be possible and I would be proven wrong but a lot of what made cohost special was how against the grain it was as a piece of software.

The moment you open source your shit, you have to answer calls from randos to transform it in 40 opposite ways and no matter the decision you take you're wrong. Open source projects break people for real.

I trust that the use-case outlined previously (display archives like they were shown onsite) will either be covered by the official data exports or that someone will come in clutch. Prechoster exists so I think it will be possible even if @staff doesn't provide it.

I don't care about cohost's code surviving, I want the cohost spirit to survive.
I want to see a spiritual successor to cohost in 2, 5 or 10 years. I want to live in the world where someone who used cohost got so inspired by it they tried to replicate it and succeed where it failed.

That's what I want for me and for us (for eggbug).


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in reply to @xn--hs8h's post:

make sure @staff didn't have as a default option "walk away with the source code and turn non-profit at the first sign of difficulty, or under outside pressure"

just to be clear, "turn non-profit" is not a typo, correct? if it's not a typo, could you elaborate on what you mean by this? is it just like, "register as a non-profit"? i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at here

Am I correct in reading this post as implying that you're opposed to cohost being operated by a non-profit?

If so, why are you opposed to cohost being operated by a non-profit? Wouldn't the removal of a profit motive benefit ASSC?

If not, how should it be read?

in reply to @eramdam's post:

I saw people being smug about the foolishness that the code won't default to open-source and I was thinking like, "but the software isn't really the point, is it??" so I'm glad to see a coherent argument in the opposite direction. (not that it's likely to change their minds, but I don't know much in this space and it just felt like a missed target)

of course, I like the platform and respect the massive work put into it! but the idea of it was much more attractive than anything else, feels like it would most likely end with people using cohost goodwill to springboard their social media site or whatever

feels like it would most likely end with people using cohost goodwill to springboard their social media site or whatever

Yeah exactly. People should steal cohost ideas, not try to re-animate its corpse as a fucked up puppet.

To be clear I asked about the archive display thing because I assumed the data dumps would be just the post markdown and I was interested in possibly being the clutch person in question lol

You're right about the horrors of open source maintenance but there is still value in a blind code dump with no maintenance for archival purposes or for people like me who wanna crib some styles and markdown processing config off of it.