tati

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NireBryce
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I need u to stop doing the whole "any testosterone is poison" meme/anxiety thing, and not even because it hurts trans people on a primarily testosterone endocrine stack (though this is a Pretty Good Reason too. but that's been litigated to death already)

especially when fully suppressed T makes physical therapy much much less effective, and T that gets you to the low average cis female range along with high enough estradiol and progesterone doesn't actually cause issues here?

the dirty secret is ovaries also produce testosterone, it's a precursor to other hormones.


but like, solving most of my chronic pain required taking it, it turns out, because now my body passively builds muscle to a much higher point, and I don't lose all my PT gains for the year if I'm too sick for a month.

it's probably more useful if you don't have those things. though you might have trouble getting it from your doctor without those reasons.

but I'm just so tired of cycles that aren't even informed, cargo culting whatever blogposts from six years ago said. and yes, a lot of it is ironic, but the thing about high density of literal thinkers and or stoners is, it becomes doctrine.

I wonder how many other people are hurting because no one (especially doctors in my case) thought to ask if "fully suppressed testosterone" was actually a good goal to have.

not to say T is for everyone, though.

note: depending on the person, body hair follicles may activate that weren't active if you started E in your early 20s so they didn't all already, but testing a month off T seemed to make them stop being as dark. but I shave everywhere anyway. (especially at the application site) and at this dose it seems to hold steady at "maybe 5 hairs above my legs where i wouldn't be able to tell anyway"

note 2: probably won't work if you're on blockers, even with testicles my T was near-zero with just IM estradiol cypionate and oral progesterone so I wasn't on blockers when I started this.

@gwenverbsnouns says in the comments:

hair facts from a trans electrologist:
vellus (light) hairs can be stimulated by androgens (like T) to progress to terminal hairs, and will sometimes revert back to vellus hairs if the androgens are reduced, if they haven't passed the point of no return. that point of no return varies person to person, but generally if a hair gets to be a full coarse terminal hair it won't go away


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I also added creatine which seems to have helped my muscular endurance but importantly a lot of people reported a 10% passive strength boost and that was true for me, which made me able to get over the initial plateau from being pretty unmuscular and I've mostly stuck with it for the other effects.

I don't really trust the other suppliments but creatine has been pretty heavily studied because sports haven't banned it yet and everyone is looking for an edge, especially university sports teams.

but the T is what lets me like. not lose all my muscle progress if I'm not actively working on it, plus like, i ached a lot more the first few weeks because suddenly just existing was building adaptive muscle

ymmv but I'm so angry about a lot of it so far.

note: body hair follicles may activate that weren't if you started E in your early 20s so they didn't all already, but testing a month off T seemed to make them stop being as dark. but I shave everywhere anyway. (especially at the application site)

I've been on T six months now, and four weeks ago I started using a doorframe pullup bar pretty lazyily (3x10/d, all in the same session, maybe 5x a week if I remember) and am 2/3 of the way to a pull-up.

from like, going up 12 stairs hurting me before that

the other part was learning about delayed onset muscle soreness and that it 1. goes away by doing the thing and 2. if you start by doing the motion at 60% load a few days in advance for a few days in a row, you reduce the initial soreness from 100%.

I've still got problems but this is making it way easier to untangle the rest

👍

the other thing is that since it's low cis female average, it's performance enhancing compared to what we're used to but it's still not like, Easy, and still takes work but it's not a thing I'm constantly stressing about anymore.

and my spine muscles are so much better.

(counterintutively, if you've got muscle pain on the rear of your body, it's likely from it compensating for muscles in the front, and the reverse.)

hair facts from a trans electrologist:
vellus (light) hairs can be stimulated by androgens (like T) to progress to terminal hairs, and will sometimes revert back to vellus hairs if the androgens are reduced, if they haven't passed the point of no return. that point of no return varies person to person, but generally if a hair gets to be a full coarse terminal hair it won't go away