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nicky
@nicky

you can't be like "wow look at all these awful posts i bet you don't want to click on them" when you're the one combing through the website to create a gigantic list of the ones that you don't like or whatever

the-doomed-posts-of-muteKi
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oh my god we've reached heretofore unexplored levels of loserdom (and this is why I am not particularly inclined to be charitable to the author as someone trying to collate useful information to make this discussion easier to navigate)

like this is a genuinely incredibly funny thing for this person to say, for reasons that are probably beyond their ability to understand

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kos39
@kos39

It's a viable comeback in this scenario cause these people's hobbies usually are just getting mad at shit on the internet and picking fights with people. I know these sorts all too well from my time adminning on mastodon... because even when the conversation is important (here, race issues) the way it's handled ensures nothing valuable will come from it.

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OokamiJ64
@OokamiJ64

As someone that has used Pillowfort and saw the said post, I was already getting a bit antsy reading it again. I'll definitely keep an eye out on them. Regardless of their intentions, the way the posts are executed seem to come off as a bit of a pot stirrer... 🤔

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somewhatnifty
@somewhatnifty

I think what I dislike most about this is that they seem to pretty much only post about drama while presenting themselves as some sort of documentatian of cohost. from reading their posts the general impression is of a website that is continually at war with itself and nobody ever has fun rather than one where disagreements flare up occasionally on account of it being a website where posting happens. Additionally, I'm not sure you really need to be comprehensively hate-reading a website for data in order to say vagueposting can be bad

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kos39
@kos39

Cohost has issues but I can assure that Pillowfort has 100% of the same problems and maybe they should focus on solving the problems on their own platform instead... Every social media needs to have a discussion amongst their own about how it treats or alienates POC but the PF post feels like they are just foisting that discussion on another platform like theirs isn't guilty itself. I guarantee their site also has a white majority that isn't even remotely welcoming to POC, so like... glass houses and whatnot.

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Space-G
@Space-G

That's so interesting! First because it reminds me off how different people's feeds are in here.
But also because this Osteophage seems to be a little obsessed with correlating things. They keep mentioning "vagueposting" and "vagueblogging" and it sounded very weird to me. I mean that vagueposting looks like just a symptom of not being chronically online.
It can be that the meaning of "vagueposting" is lost on me due to language differences, but it seems so primal to watching or reading anything at all that in any social website everything can be characterized as "vague".
It's how people work, no one needs to know the full context to everything all of the time.
It looks like their aversion to letting things be vague leads them to constantly be trying to create conflicts and a bigger drama between loose posts.
But of course, that's just what it looks like to me.

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delan
@delan

idk, while i agree that the post you linked comes off that way, it seems like they also have interesting things to say about cohost’s design and culture that we could learn from, e.g. https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/3925854

for example, in one of their other “compilations” they talked about how, in practice and intentions aside, our comments system actually discourages commenting, which in turn makes conversations disjoint and prone to not hearing each other because people prefer adding their comments in reposts.

this is not limited to cohost either, they also talk about their experiences with livejournal, dreamwidth, wordpress, tumblr, and pillowfort itself: https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/312460

i guess what i’m saying is that they may just have an interest in analysing the dynamics of different platforms, and that talking about it elsewhere isn’t necessarily malicious.

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queerinmech
@queerinmech

i do not really disagree with you

i have made a lot of my own critiques of cohost, quite intense ones at points, the lack of context is real and the strong discouragement of comments too

i read some of osteophage's posts in 2022 and early 2023 while i was in that mode, the aloof perspective troubled me, but it is a valid literary technique

ironically it was the comments on their posts that convinced me to focus on cohost instead of pillowfort - it just did not feel comfy to me, it was very tribal and vitriolic (i am sadly getting some of that us/them vibe in these comments as well)

also, it is clear to me that while they may have reserved their name on cohost they are actively using it via other page names, so blocking that page will not be anything more than a data point in their future post on how a few cohosties decided to mass block them for their investigations 🤷

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secrets
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The structural analysis isn't wildly offbase but by the same token it is impossible for someone who spends this much time ferreting out and documenting the social dynamics of little online subculture groups to be unaware of the basic deal of running a drama-farming offsite to keep tabs on your favorite lolcows in 2024

Not a whole lot of nonmalicious success stories to point to, there

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banky
@banky

whoa! they put me in the dark mode one! weird weird weird. I do love that their takeaway was “I can’t follow what y’all are talking about” as if my goal was to provide clarity for some external observer and not processing my own thoughts.

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shel
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  1. Pillowfort? Really? Site is so broken I had to find a workaround just to scroll down and read the post

  2. I think it really says something about Cohost that their “drama post” that’s trying to be entertaining actually just feels like a pretty dry description of mostly reasonable people having a somewhat confusing conversation due to the medium. Like nobody at any point is actually inflammatory or says anything particularly outrageous. Meltdown May this is not.

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Lizstar
@Lizstar

The thing about this kinda behavior to me is like, not only is it just rude to mine other people's lives for social brownie points and entertainment

but it's also like, exhausting and depressing to do. There were a lot of people like this in the speedrun community, who made youtube videos about speedrun drama. Some of them are dead now literally because of it. It kinda sucks away at you, to make your THING harvesting drama and bad vibes.

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Gadfly-Goods
@Gadfly-Goods

Yeah. Just skimming the linked post, it appears to be a lot drier and plainer than I would have expected, which kinda makes this behavior weirder.

Like, it almost feels like that poster could have posted that summary here under #cohostmetacontext or whatever and people would have praised him for providing a community service rather than being a weirdo peering thru the windows.

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widr
@widr

this is like part of a newsletter series they have going, they seem to be scraping the barrel for drama to report on instead of spending their time or thoughts in any kind of remotely healthy way. that's my read on it anyway; a lot of those comments seem to be from regular subscribers to their "reporting"

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alugard
@alugard

i get the urge to rubberneck drama as someone who used to follow fandom drama communities in the 2000s but like. that was usually pretty interesting to outsiders? you'd have writeups of people claiming to be dating fictional characters on the astral plane, or pretending to be in a coma so that people would write them smallville mpreg fanfic. i don't get what's interesting about "here's 90 links to people on another website discussing how dark mode does/doesn't/should/shouldn't function on that particular website" unless you're using that website. this is the most boring possible gossip

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Pepsi
@Pepsi

Kinda just seems like they're reporting on different Internet drama in an unbiased way. Plenty of creators do that. The link provided covers the posts concerning the lack of racial diversity on this site which WAS derailed. The comments on the post (from the link) draw comparisons to this sites users and Twitter users and now I see it.

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nicky
@nicky

the amount of snark they have in their posts seems like there's some bias to me. also, ""reporting"" on a conversation about racial diversity as if it's simply Internet drama or "discourse" kind of sucks! imo

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widr
@widr

yeah exactly. ok cool they're """reporting""" on it with a flat affect, and without directly editorializing. to what end?

also kinda spoiled by the end when they gloat about how cohost is going down the tubes and going rancid all according to their predictions. none of this is motivated by anything even slightly wholesome

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the-doomed-posts-of-muteKi
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I for one cannot believe that there are high-tempered disagreements on this website. Clearly I am wasting my time and should spend my time on a different social media network like twi-wait uh no faceb- er hold on what sorry tumb- oh fuck I nearly spit out my drink I meant instag- oh my god could you imagine though what about yout- psfh no obviously I meant pillowfort the whole time

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