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NireBryce
@NireBryce

the most user friendly software is the one they don't notice had work put into it, no sharp corners, rough finish, weird edges. no marks or imperfections, you're putting in all of the effort to make the thing simple.

and I wonder how much that has warped everything


mrhands
@mrhands

Because everything they do on their computing devices is poking files and folders on someone else's PC.


NireBryce
@NireBryce

I guess I should elaborate:

most people do not interact with a filesystem. They have no need to, on Windows or otherwise. Word saves to their documents folder, chrome to their downloads folder, etc. if you haven't worked in an office that still does a lot of filing cabinets, the metaphor may not even occur to you.

with that, for late gen x and then millennials, there was a push for computer education in schools, though that was obviously unevenly applied, and now even the ""good"" schools have maybe a two hours a week class one quarter per four years.

but people already know those parts.

im speculating here, but here's the vibes: anglosphere Gen Z hit it's "peak" at the same time companies and software started "expanding to markets" that previously did not have computers at all. You no longer had to teach or be taught, because suddenly there was ease of access, as long as you didn't care about your files having robust hierarchy.

every other generation self selected into the people who taught themselves or were taught, and the people who just treated their computers as appliances if they used them at all, until everything changed and the Internet was ubiquitous and necessary.

is it good for interface design that we've done this? who knows, I don't think so, but I have survivor bias here. it's probably all of these things. but the number of people with computers exploded around 2015

but if they re-ran the polls in like, a year or two i bet we'd see a pretty even distribution


sudocurse
@sudocurse

maybe making multiple generations of computer users pass around their digital things in arcane, fragile, difficult to access ways does the same thing to computing as like, forcing 7 year olds to memorize double digit times tables does to math; it breeds contempt but it's central to their lives so they're also helpless to do anything about it. idk


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in reply to @NireBryce's post:

In fairness, that's kind of the way of a modern economy. Driving requires knowing the law, and barely anything about cars themselves. Cooking requires almost no knowledge of where the ingredients came from, beyond "the store," and delivery makes that even more abstract.

I suspect that we worry about the abstractions when we live through erecting them, and the world goes on fine either way.

That said, unlike food and cars, software is currently in a situation where we have more abstractions hiding how things work, but no regulation keeping things safe.

in reply to @NireBryce's post:

i've been thinking about lauren berlant's idea about the promise of administration lately (which dear reader you may delight to learn that she talks about in her excellent downstream marxist analytic Cruel Optimism), where the promise is essentially that you can endlessly reinitialize parameters in an operation until you get a desired result. this too is a type of cognitive poison and i think a very deeply related one to what's being gone over here. it's almost like commodity fetishism in that they seem to stem from essentially being blinded from the amount, types, and processes of effort and resources that get poured in. if all you need to do is push a button to get a coffee, why bother with wondering where it all comes from? you've got shit to do after all