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highlights from "would you rather run into a man or a bear in the woods" discussion last night:

  • what kind of bear
  • (I spoke at length about the relative dangers of bears by species, life stage, time of year, etc)
  • consensus was "randomly picked from total North American bear population" (man is randomly picked from total North American man population)
  • look realistically I've gone hiking alone while female-presenting and there were many times I ran into men and the encounter was that I said "hey" and he said "hey" and we kept walking
  • stranger danger is so overstated, the real life threat is the man you come home to after the hike
  • this is also true for bears actually, unless you're unlucky enough to draw a polar bear it's usually just captive or human-habituated bears you should worry about
  • so really most of the time you're fine with either
  • but if a guy is on a damn mission to get women to say "ohhh now that you put it like that, I finally appreciate how safe and protective men are," if a man has opinions about "man or bear" to the point where he is posting gory bear attack images at women who chose wrong, I would definitely rather run into a bear than him

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in reply to @pervocracy's post:

According to the National Park Service, which I would take as an authority over anyone else involved in this discourse, the most dangerous animal in their parks is deer. Nothing else makes quite as much of a habit of standing in front of cars. But yes, agreed - men in general, fine, men who make a big point of how much safer they are than bears, probably not safer than bears.

Also, this reminded me of it - as a fellow PDF Hobby person, you might find Over the Edge: Death in the Grand Canyon interesting. It's hard to find outside the Flagstaff/Grand Canyon area, but your library might be able to get a copy. It's basically a record of every known death in the Grand Canyon until the time of publication, broken down by category and with some detail. It gets kind of weird and Darwin Award-y in spots, as I recall, but it scratched a lot of the same itches as industrial accident investigation PDFs.