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lorenziniforce
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I fucking hate how much governments here in the "third world" buy into that sort of "organic" woo. The Philippine courts exploded a GMO pest resistant rice project a fucking decade in the making and I'm so god damn mad about it


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I hate that the ideological pushback against GMOs moved away from stuff like control of seed flow and risk of crop decimation from monocultures and onto that, for lack of a better word, unscientific/ahistoric notion of "frankenfood", though I can surmise reasons why this happened

(In particular my main suspicion is that any corporation of the size and importance of these agribusinesses uses part of their massive wealth to establish controlled opposition, in order to make their critics sound less rational. related: how mcdonald's tried to shape the wider media narrative around the coffee temperature lawsuit and the longstanding popular interpretation of the Luddites. In this case it shifts the argument from how these tools are used in our economy -- should it be legal to patent food given its importance to society -- to an argument about the tools existing in the first place. Obviously I have no direct evidence of this claim, and won't put you on about this, but means and motive, at least, are both pretty straightforward to establish here.)


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in reply to @lorenziniforce's post:

Treating GMOs as essentially suspect (it's not the biology, it's the monopoly power) is purity politics, and purity politics one of those fast tracks to fascism. waves arms at the whole woo to Nazi nonsense paying no rent in the minds of much of white America

in reply to @the-doomed-posts-of-muteKi's post:

My first exposure to concern about GMO foods was via my father, who talked about how, BT is approved as a pesticide partially because it degrades quickly in sunlight so you can spray as much as you want on anything and it will be entirely gone by the time that produce gets to market.

However, genetically modified pest-resistant corn simply produces the toxin in every cell of its body. Where it is not exposed to sunlight that causes it to break down. And I think this is an entirely valid and scientifically reasoned concern. I also think that it's worth talking about how there appears to be a correlation between the introduction of pest-resistant GMO foods and the rise of people reporting that they have suddenly developed strange food intolerances to wheat or corn products.

The concern about copyrighting crop strains and corporate bullying of family farms came into it later, when Mon Santo sued the guy who didn't even plant those seeds on purpose, but simply lived downwind of a place that was using them. But I honestly think that dismissing the concerns of people who are worried about the effects on human health of saturating the whole of a staple food product with chemical pesticides is a bad play.