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why are they going on about "of course there are ongoing costs to supporting a mouse..."
I don't know anything about drivers and firmware or whatever, but I do know that I can get a $5 mouse at Dollar Tree and plug it into my computer and it will start working right away
I would need some very specific specifics on exactly what function is being supported here that the dollar store mouse does not have
Really feels like they're devoted to the idea that all of their expensive mice get their value from their fancy software or whatever. And not just that people plug a mouse into a computer and then use it?
I actually just uninstalled their software a few weeks ago and it turns out my mouse works better without it??
Logitech mice genuinely don't work right without their proprietary software, but that's a negative. I plugged a Logitech mouse into a Windows machine a little while ago and the system automatically installed something called the 'logitech AI prompt builder'. The increasingly shitty software is a reason to get out of using logitech peripherals, which is a shame because the actual MX mouse hardware is very good...
While it's not a universal solution, there's a rather decent piece of open source software called "solaar" for Linux that implements the parts of the Logitech software that you need to actually use the mouse, without all the AI crud and other needless shitware
Yeah, I do use that on Linux, but it’s still a nuisance on Windows/Mac
I've not had any issue with my G502 proteus core running without custom software. i just installed the software to set it up, saved it to the mouse, and then uninstalled the software
I really wonder how they've messed that up, because on Linux they just work like any other mouse. Maybe I've just been lucky?
With the MX series at least you do have to use specific software (that replicates the proprietary functionality) for them to work right under Linux. But you might not have noticed because the main thing wrong with them (besides not being able to remap keys, use profiles, etc) is that they just get set to the lowest dpi setting, so if you turn your sensitivity way up it's not a 'problem' (it's a problem to me, dammit)
I see, I've been lucky enough to only use ones that let me set the DPI directly on them
What model or type of mouse is that in the header image though, is that better for RSIs or other ergonomics? (This is the most 'in my 30s' I've felt in ages Jesus)
Haven't seen it before, but it looks like it's one of these? https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/shop/p/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.910-006469
I think that's it! Wow searching for "standing mouse" was not doing it for me... I should go to bed...
Yeah these are called 'vertical mice', several manufacturers make them. They keep your wrist straight, with your palm on the same plane as your arm bones, which (for some people) alleviates or prevents pain or injury. Rotating the wrist around this axis makes your radius and ulna twist around one another, which can pinch nerves and tendons if they're already inflamed (or can cause injury over time).
Thank you for this! I think I'd like to try using one, see if it does anything for me. Do you know if they come in Gamer?
I think which is best for you depends on your specific hand/wrist issues. A vertical mouse prevents some bad movements of the ulna, but a trackball prevents other things (and some people have difficulties doing the kinds of motions you have to do to move a mouse). You can also get trackballs that are positioned up so you can use them with your wrist untwisted, just like how you can get a 'tenting kit' to raise a split keyboard side into an 'accordion'-like posture