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rosieposie
@rosieposie

just found an extremely funny/fucked up development on the discord vs wiki thing

not to call pokemon fusion out specifically. like this is a widespread issue. but oh my god.

it immediately brought to mind this comment:

am i insane for feeling like this bot had to be so much more effort than just maintaining a decent selfhosted wiki or website. theyve got a fandom wiki which doesn't count and barely has anything on it, plus a subreddit which doesn't count and barely has anything on it, and a forum thread which ... actually has a decent amount of information, but definitely not as much as this bot. this discord has 80,000 people in it, by the way.

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modulusshift
@modulusshift

yeah this one is demented. my favorite is the few questions where the bot doesn't quite have all the information, like that a given item is only available in that location after a certain part of the story, and if you're lucky someone's paying attention that you asked the right question and pipes in with the missing bit. which is just, lmao

edit: well to be fair at least one of those is actually included in the bot response now, looking at the above screenshot.

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rosieposie
@rosieposie

yeah... plus i noticed a lot of bot misfires, like someone will just be talking about corsola and the bot will pop in and go 'btw you can find corsola here! <3'

i really don't want to dunk on this bot. clearly a lot of heart was put into it. but jesus christ

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modulusshift
@modulusshift

I'm also pretty sure that these automated responses don't actually work in the dedicated bot-commands channel, which last I checked has a completely separate set of commands with even more info that's not documented anywhere else. At least I tried last time I was there haha

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Osmose
@Osmose

To be fair we've had the "people join our chat / forum /subreddit and ask questions that were answered on the wiki" problem forever, even in communities that had a well maintained website or wiki. Lots of folks are either not interested in looking through documented info or lack the context to know what it is they're even looking for, and they just ask questions and hope/expect people to be able to provide that context for them.

What I see happening here is that a solution to that problem ends up being so useful that people who otherwise would've been able to read the wiki use it as well, in the same way that elevators and ramps are accessibility measures that folks who don't need still find useful.

(Not to say anything about the accuracy of what I'm assuming is a chatgpt-backed bot)

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rosieposie
@rosieposie

yeah, i mean i think thats just a problem of courtesy/laziness imo. i was taught to try everything i can to find the information on my own before asking strangers, and so i rarely need to ask; even in discords i can usually search it up without needing to say anything, as i did here.

really, i think its kinda on the people who make a community to not be the most accessible and thorough resource if they don't want to be a community that is chiefly focused on support questions. put up some barriers! its too easy to make a post on reddit or discord with an existing account.

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plumpan
@plumpan

I remember when going into IRC to ask a question was met with people just spamming !commands instead of actually saying anything helpful.

I'm not sure what I like less, a discord bot spamming me every time I say something, or a dickish user using bot commands.

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