i think part of why artist alley has problems, besides lack of visibility, is just like. assuming i am typical, most people who see an ad there put it on their 'to get' list if interested but the return on that if it happens is usually going to take more than a week, which means that if you pay for artist alley you just. won't see any return for a while even if people saw it
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by the time you realize what youre in for its too late. there will be more identities added
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i bet it wouldnt work but can you imagine using this box as its own posting system until you could post lol
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in reply to @vanadiya-cataclysm-athelya's post:
This is why a complete lack of metrics, while I get why they want it for their social media site, does not work for ads. If you're paying for ads you need metrics. If you get a bump in sales a few weeks after your ad, and know that you had a massive amount of clicks from your AA ad, you might attribute it to the ad. Otherwise you have no idea.
This is where stuff like coupon codes come in on stuff like print ads/mailers that naturally have weak metrics, give people a little deal to incentivise self-reporting as well as buying stuff. But a lot of people on artist alley get single-digit impressions on the stuff they can measure and had big hopes for like 2-3 sales, they're not seasoned advertisers who are gonna figure that shit out without help and there's a fair body of evidence that AA is losing them money anyway
Yeah because even the people I know who used coupon codes or unique links or metrics on the receiving end got basically nothing out of it.
But it's still a basic requirement for an ad service if you expect people to keep paying.
Persistently advertising in the hopes that you'll plant a seed and get someone to actually buy your stuff like the seventh or eighth time they see you and finally are in the market for for what you're selling is a reasonable advertising model, but probably not when it entails throwing $60 down a well in the blind hope that the 3-4 people actively seeking out Cohost's secret shame page will look at your $2 itch game.
Right, the vast majority of the ads I saw were from people who are making so little on what they're selling that they probably do not have the $10 to spare in the first place, much less more than that. They really, really need reassurance that they'll at LEAST make their $10 back, and so far most of the people I've seen posting about their AA numbers didn't.
even beyond that it's really bizarre to me that this group in particular had no more developed ideas on tap for how to help small-timers ethically hawk their wares, given that ASSC's whole plan was to make communist Patreon before they got distracted and made lesbian Tumblr instead, and it's still what they're ultimately banking Cohost's survival on. Did nobody ever write down some ideas on what that would look like?
I don't know what it was supposed to look like given that Stripe wouldn't have allowed it to happen unless they got pre-approved by Stripe, which they wouldn't without a serious legal and finance team.
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