TalenLee
@TalenLee

Oh hey, let's talk about advertising!


Advertising doesn't work. Or rather, it doesn't work at doing the job it kind of wants you to think it does. There are a TON of studies on this subject, but the basic idea is that ads aren't very good at changing your behaviour, but are good at reinforcing it.

The return rate on advertising is ... noisy. Clumsy at best. A favourite example is that Dulux ran a FANTASTICALLY successful (as in audiences responded by all tested metrics) ad campaign featuring a big English Sheep Dog

(don't google the dulux dog)

These ads were outrageously successful. They worked super well. By every metric the ads can be measured, they hit their audience, they were retained, they stuck in the memory, they were well liked and they were associated with the brand. Dulux's sale of paint were not affected at all, in the areas they were using these ads vs the areas they weren't.

Sales of English sheepdogs tripled.

It's not that advertising can't have an impact ,it's just that because you and I and everyone you've ever met live in a marination of non-stop advertising on every level, they are noise we are surprisingly good at ignoring. There are two models of advertising that seem reasonably useful:

  • Advertising that engages you in a space you already exist (showing you a show on a channel you watch that you might like; Spotify recommendations, 'coming up' tv ads)
  • Advertising that makes the product normal.

If apple spends a million dollars so let's say Jeff Winger uses an iphone, this doesn't tend to make you go 'Oh, I should use that phone because he is handsome' you tend to go 'oh yeah, phones exist.'

(he's using a blackberry)

Now, that other vector, advertising that engages you in an existing space, that's what facebook wants to do and it wants to do it BY YOUR FRIENDS. Showing you ads isn't as good as showing you ads your friends like. Because that legitimises it, and puts it into your space, and then, in order to talk to them about it, you need to watch it to engage with them. And you like your friends, so why not?

So the advertisers aren't selling to you. They are not selling you the product. They are selling advertisements to people who buy advertisements. And that means that they have these perverse incentives where it doesn't matter if these ads get you to buy the thing, what matters is that they can prove the ads were good value. And you might think 'surely those things are related' buy they are really not. And that's why you get this bizarre behaviour as it relates to advertisements and where they put them and how. Being cute and innovative and engaging is super valuable and then everyone runs things into the ground and when the campaign doesn't succeed they don't care because they already got paid.

The fear we had was advertising would work like mind control for products.

The real fear should be that advertising makes us think of capitalism itself as normal.


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I found it pretty disturbing the other day when I got a pre-roll advertisement on Youtube from Facebook that was basically a 30 second advertisement for the concept of advertisements itself. Facebook was desperately trying to convince me that "personalized advertising" is good because the algorithm will show me things that I want. Or, in short, it was a plea that what they do is necessary, so please, don't be upset with what they're using our data for.

Unrelated, but I wish I could find an article I read once; it was by a dude who used to work in advertising, but retried, and it was just pages and pages of him pretty much saying what you said here -- that ads don't work. He likened it to divination because by his claim (and decades of experience), nobody actually knows why advertising works and mostly it's about convincing advertisers that their ads were effective so they keep buying more ad spots. It was a really good read and I've wished several times I had bookmarked it, because I've never been able to find it again.

In my experience the most effective advertising is in niche publications, such as neighborhood newspapers or hobbyist magazines. I've used that coupon to check out a new restaurant.

Barkers and Hawkers also part this fool from my money.

another terrible fact about this: advertising is a bane on many small businesses. You can't build ambient brand awareness on a small business's advertising budget. The best you can do is already be making a product people know they want, but haven't bought yet, and use advertising to be like "hey I'm one of the places you can get that!" If you're something unsexy like a construction company, then your best bet is to be where people are already looking for those services. and yet, local TV channels are going to try and court you lol, radio, Facebook, and they're going to set your money on fire, because that kind of advertising does basically nothing for a business like that.