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I gotta be honest i'm enjoying Cohost more the last few days than I have in a while but the notifications thing is driving me crazy. Not being able to see how many notes a piece has while it also has zero comments but getting notifications about it is deranging me way more than twitter or any "metrics" site ever did. It feels like the site is trying to dopamine feed me attention but without any satisfaction. If a piece doesn't get something concrete that sticks around like a comment, after the notes fade out of current notifications it's like they were all ghosts or something.

To be entirely honest - "you get notifications but they only exist in your recent updates feed" feels like it's calculated to make me want to just keep posting and posting to keep the notifications coming, whereas on say tumblr I can go like "oh nice these posts are coming along fine" and check out and come back. Maybe that's a me problem and I shouldn't want constant notifications or "numbers", but i'm expressly on social media bc I want an audience for my work and this site feels like it's hiding the audience behind a big curtain and reassuring me they're there periodically. This probably works better for text posts where there's a line of discussion to be had and you get like, actual conversations in comments whereas my art just exists and folks either comment to say they like it or they don't.


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in reply to @witnesstheabsurd's post:

One thing I've tried to keep in mind is that I'm basically having to relearn social media as a platform for interacting directly with people, and it is fucking awkward. I leave a lot of comments on stuff because I'm trying to give an early meta thing I saw here a shot--the idea that we need leaving comments to be a normal thing in order for Cohost to work, and that comments should be low stakes for both the person leaving them and the person reading them because it's just a normal conversation. But it is super against my learned instincts from Twitter, which is that replies from strangers are potentially stressful for content creators, especially when there are a ton of them and it's not clear who is genuine or trying to bait a response or self-promoting or whatever.

One of the things I like about Cohost is that interacting with people does feel comparatively low stakes; I don't want to post online under my real name because I tried it and hated it, but it meant that on Twitter I couldn't really participate in game industry discussions because I was just some random Batman slash account. There was a nonzero chance of people I'd actually worked with yelling at me for being presumptuous, and that is a totally understandable reflex when every post you make about your area of expertise is guaranteed to attract 700 weirdos who think they know your job better than you or want something that has nothing to do with you as a person.

But I find myself missing likes on comments here, because those let people acknowledge comments with the equivalent of a nod; they can end the interaction on a friendly note without committing to an ongoing discussion. And that makes total sense to me as I write it, but then if I stop and think about it, it's kind of fucked up? I'm thinking of a situation where creators are de facto influencers even if they don't set out to be, and my interaction with them is sort of like talking to a public figure, even if they're a relatively small account. I default to not commenting on Twitter the same way I default to ignoring celebrities if I recognize them. I don't expect replies to my comments here, but if I post one and get no acknowledgment, it feels like I probably didn't have anything of value to add and should have kept it to myself. In reality, it's just as likely that people are reading it and just not feeling the need to add anything, which isn't bad.

I think Tumblr's tag system was probably the sweet spot for me in feedback, because it's sort of like sitting in the rafters watching people's organic reactions. They know I'm there, but they're commenting for themselves or their friends and occasionally waving in my direction. I used to collect Tumblr tag comments after announcements or game releases and post them for my coworkers because they can be enormously validating--a fan will comment "Nice work!" directly, but the Tumblr tags will be like "#NO YOU DON'T GET HOW MUCH THIS DESTROYED ME #CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW THEY [700-word character analysis] #AAAAAAAAAAANDBDNJDHFBFBBFB"

It's hard to tell what's actually not working because I suspect we're in entirely new territory where the model of "build large audience > get feedback via engagement numbers" is collapsing and nothing is readily taking its place. The impression I get is that the Cohost devs are not trying to establish a new standard so much as actively break the old one, because it's so entrenched and pervasive that it has implications for every part of a design. As someone pointed out the last time likes on comments came up, once you've implemented that, the lack of response to a comment is much more likely to mean it was poorly received, and if you don't like a comment you definitely saw, that's also making a choice to communicate. I don't actually know which version of this is better; I will feel awkward posting this comment and I feel the need to say that I don't expect a response because yeah. But also the site is so small and personal even now that I can just tell you that.

I think it's natural to not want to be pouring your heart out into the void. The feeling that it's calculated to keep you posting is interesting because it's not the first time I've heard it phrased that way--that a site that explicitly does not intend to derange people via numbers feels like it's manipulating posters into providing constant content by withholding the satisfaction. I don't think that's an unreasonable feeling to have because that's how fuckin. everything works now--if a platform is refusing to reveal information that you'd find helpful, it's probably because there's some behavior you would not perform as profitably if you had it. I also believe that right now, eliminating as much as possible any kind of tool adjacent to Profitable Behavior is probably the only way to figure out what a recently built site looks like without them, to find out what people do in their absence, and to see if anything better shakes out.

yeahhhhh, i really like the idea of "no metrics" on paper, as i've had trouble with getting Number-fixated in the past.

but you're right that they still give you a tiny bit of Number and then pull it away. like, if you're dangling a treat in front of me you have to either give it to me or not dangle it in the first place.

i think it might help to turn off notifications for everything except comments and replies (i'm not sure if stuff on the tags counts as shares or replies). but i think part of the "issue" might be on us, the followers. idk i think i need to rebuild my habit of commenting on artwork like i did on deviantart maybe.

I know it's a small team and they're dedicated to a specific idea for the site but I think as an artist it would be an OK thing and not hugely compromising to the concept to have, like, a dashboard or something where you can privately view that stuff in a more comprehensive way. No numbers on posts, but analytics for me, the person trying to reach an audience. That said I think I remember somewhere that something to that effect is on the docket but, small team making careful changes and all that.

Like, there genuinely is something relieving about having a place where my stuff isn't publicly, numerically, valued. But there aren't a lot of good places to post my work and this has the bones of something perfect for it.

Yeah, I've come to terms with the fact that what I want out of this site and what it is are two different things that are never going to line up. I don't need a constant stream but sometimes knowing that something old got a brief second life can do more to improve my mood than notes on something recent, it means someone liked what they saw enough to go back and look through the catalogue

Yeah, I think I feel the same way. It doesn't bother me terribly, but it feels like an awkward half-half situation. I have a few friends over here and I'm enjoying the site in general, but if I was only here to share art I'd feel a bit... blue-balled, I guess? haha

Actually, one of my biggest issues with not being able to browse shares/likes on posts is on other sites that is the biggest way for me to find new people to follow (if they like stuff i like, we probably have similar interests), and trawling notifications for that is a little annoying.