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lexyeevee
@lexyeevee

i don't know how to end a comment conversation

i need a like button just to indicate "cool i read your last response, thank you". i need the closure. i don't care if it shows a number or if anyone else can press it i just need to be able to give a thumbs up and walk away. help

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pendell
@pendell

But see that's just the thing even if you made a new comment with just a 👍 emoji in it, well, that would come across as extremely passive aggressive, like a "cool, nobody asked" type of response. It's a lot of work to say nothing. Whereas a like button is no work to acknowledge something.

wxcafe
@wxcafe

I agree with that a lot and I would add that it's really interesting how the semantics of the ⭐️ or ❤️ or 👍, or whatever, the fav, if you will, has evolved extremely quickly online and is also very different between generations.

With the new wave of twitter users who moved to mastodon, specifically, and with many of them being younger, one of the most common "tips" given was that faving a post didn't "matter" since there's no "algorithmic timeline" to take that into account and put it on your followers pages more, the only thing that "matters" is boosting that post.

Which is wild to me because it's always seemed that the "faving a tweet puts it on your followers' TL" thing was incredibly annoying and a breach of privacy: a fav is, to me, a private, small gesture that tells the person who wrote the tweet that yeah it's a good one, and also I read your reply.

But to a lot of newer users, it's how things work, and a fav (or a like, I guess) means "I want the algorithm to pick this up and expose it to my followers". I guess a RT means uhhhh that but more? not sure.

And to many older twitter users than me, a fav is a way to bookmark a post! And I'm guessing a bunch of them stopped using them when the bookmark feature appeared for real in twitter.

And then there's facebook where liking a post means... what? and you have reacts with a bunch of different emojis now, and there the meaning gets muddied, and becomes more like a messaging app reaction: ❤️ means "that's great / love that", 👍 means "this is factually true / I agree" and 😂 means "I am over 50 years old". the fav/like loses its meaning and there is no acknowledgement, but then again the userbase of facebook doesn't care because its culture is... nonexistent

Anyway uh. yeah. I would also appreciate favs, even if there's no number, just to know that someone saw what I posted. No numbers though, ough

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bcj
@bcj

it's fine to leave things at the last thing someone said imo. in a way it's sort of a relief to not need to do that final fave because that way when you reply back it is more meaningful

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GFD
@GFD

that cohost doesn’t try to algorithmically drown out anyone’s voices helps a lot with feeling like you’ll have been seen even without being given a direct response. i guess recent issues with comment notification collapsing could cause this by accident though, oops? i have also been running into this exact same phenomenon here though. there was that one post proposing Discord‐style reactions for coposts, perhaps in jest, but for comments specifically it would be nice for only the person being replied to (including the OP) to be able to leave some kind of minimized response. i think allowing a single emoji choice per comment is the most flexible and expressive option, and it’s what instant messengers often do now. it’s also handy for letting the OP show they appreciate people commenting! particularly because the OP already made the dang copost and often doesn’t need or want to add even more of their own thoughts on top of other people’s thoughts. there’s something of an expectation that if your reply doesn’t have around as much substance as what it’s replying to, then you’re not like, i dunno, giving it due respect? or something? it feels like undervaluing the person’s contribution. but if you use the mechanism where you can’t give anything of substance beyond a single emoji, it kind of works around this problem? god internet etiquette is weird although it’s not like irl etiquette doesn’t have its own dumb rules and nuances either. why can’t i type short comments this is like 20 times longer than the post god

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esselfortium
@esselfortium

i honestly really miss the numbers on this site. i don't need the numbers to be big numbers, i just need to know that someone actually read what i posted and felt any way at all about it. chosting feels weirdly lonely to me most of the time.

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lexyeevee
@lexyeevee

yeah i know what you mean. having an exact measurement of what people preferred me to do was eventually draining in a high-level way, but knowing people liked it at all was nice. i hope there's some helpful middle ground

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jseakle
@jseakle

an additional reason to want likes on comments: I had a sensible chuckle at this, but it's a conversation between two people who aren't me! it feels so rude to be butting in like this just to say "i lold"! and yet surely it's nicer for everyone, a more "social" medium, if I am able to communicate that I did, something you would just see peripherally if we were standing around chatting.

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nazgul
@nazgul

I’m going to massively date myself.

The first Unix chat program was “write”. It simply sent what you typed to the tty device of the person you were chatting too…which made your chats show up in the middle of what they were doing. And to reply they would run the same app to do the same thing to you.

Needless to say, knowing when the conversation was over was important. And not just the conversation. But also you didn’t want to interrupt while they were still typing, since your text would get intermingled with theirs.

So someone stole a protocol from radio communications. When you were done saying what you wanted to send. You’d send “o” on a line by itself. (over). When you were done talking completely, you’d send “oo” on a line by itself (over and out).

Eventually “talk” showed up, which actually had a split screen so you could see what the other person was typing and it wasn’t on top of what you were typing.

I’m not sure there’s really any point to this in relation to your problem (which I 100% agree with). But you could try sending “oo” as a comment and completely confuse them.

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chamomile
@chamomile

As someone who uses the chronological timeline I constantly forget that "like" is more of a soft retweet. I prefer it to mean... "I like this!"

Given the addition of the liked posts feed on Cohost, I suspect that it's going to quickly take on the bookmarking role that it did on Twitter in years past.

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