hthrflwrs
@hthrflwrs

Which is better?

  • A machine which only tells useless truths
  • A machine which only tells useful lies

stepnix
@stepnix

-Leonardo de Montreal crowdsourcing the next update to his Incomparable Nightmare Engine


xavid
@xavid

"All machines are lies, but some are useful."—Jasmine Apocynum, probably (not quite answering the question)


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in reply to @hthrflwrs's post:

Former, how is this even a contest? Doesn't everyone love learning and collecting useless information?1 The Useless Truths Machine is hours of great entertainment for the whole party, full of excitingly pointless trivia.

The latter is only good if everyone understands that what it says are lies. Unfortunately, we can't even get people to understand that LLMs are inherently Lie Machines and not omniscent actually-sapient knowledge bots, and people keep trying to use them to solve math problems or generate legal citations or replace employed humans that actually comprehend their fields of expertise. Even with all of the ethical problems with their training set ignored? LLMs, are by nature, in their originally intended academic purpose, meant solely to simulate the structure of language, not the meaning. They can't know the difference between truth and reality any more than a blind cave fish could know or comprehend that apples are red.

You could make a machine that is literally titled "I-ONLY-TELL-LIES-BOT 5000" and people would simply default to "well, it's a computer, that means it's smart" and let it inform their understanding of the world. God help us if the lies are "useful" in that they can be used to easily cover up any blame, crimes, and wrongdoings smoothly. Horrible idea! Should never be invented.


  1. Poster is aware that everyone does not, in fact, love collecting useless information.