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yumeirochaser
@yumeirochaser

tbh i feel the biggest problem with rider's depiction of female riders (besides the fact that the wide majority end up dead/incapacitated) is the fact that even up to this day, they end up revolving around a man AND almost always have an arc about like...becoming more traditionally submissive/girly, after being Epic Girlbosses in their introductions
this is even evident on their fashion. i often think about how their first outfits tend to be like, jeans, suits and leather jackets and by the end most of them are wearing skirts or "cuter" clothes. it's really like, interesting
i don't think sentai or ultra or MH or other tokus are Perfect on how they depict women, but i think rider is the worst bc of how insidious it gets with this. the others either have Good Girls or like, ignorant sexism, or the really bad examples are like from the 70s or bc hacks like sakamoto worked on them. rider is just very consistent on purpose about these tendencies, for over 50 years now lol


neckspike
@neckspike

Yeah. 😩 slowly being dragged into a more recent decade leaving a trail of fingernail gouges.


yumeirochaser
@yumeirochaser

lowkey what gets me about reiwa girl riders is how toei likes to pat themselves in the back for being SO #Feminist while promoting then and then the girl always, ALWAYS ends up suffering one big sexist writing gaffe and becoming irrelevant. they only don't kill them these days. it's not even the writing staff's fault, they do want to do more with these girls, but the fact that bandai mostly aims to sell them to older (male and straight) otaku fans with only p-bandai merch while throwing them to the side and vetting any attempt to make them like. Actually Respected is so much
it's not the staff, it's the fact that bandai sees the sexism as part of rider's brand lol


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like, the concept was very inspired by them lol. and even if it wasn't, there is still the rider bias lol
i remember people getting fucking pissed over r/b having an arc focusing on Femoids but rider having a similar ship was inmediately accepted. some people did say that sakura's arc started with her having to accept she is fallible before being a rider so i guess the dressing down made it more palatable to rider fans.
like sorry, it is biased, but like
it's really tiring seeing people constantly shit on sentai, ultra, MH and other toku women for the sake of gassing up reiwa rider's extremely unsincere and fake "feminism". it's fine to like it, but also yeah. it sounds a bit mean, but like, it's just a really interesting phenomenon. sentai's got two full fledged trans rangers now but the real fan focus is on these girls lol

I honestly think it stems from riders long-standing sexism, folks who don't want to think of themselves as liking a piece of media that has that issue gas up these half-assed attempts because otherwise they'd feel bad about it.

yeaaah absolutely. i notice it esp since rider does have a big fanbase composed of...the demos it constantly shits on. i used to gloss it over until i actually watched the shows and constantly noticed this issue over and over in most of its history. only a few shows in the early 00s try to avoid that, all three eras are almost like, vitriolic on their sudden hate of women lol

in my experience rider tends to have a bigger englang fanbase compared to other hero franchises because it has a higher percentage of series that people perceive as more "serious" as englang fandom spaces have that whole complex about liking things that are silly and not hideously self-aware about it, but that also means that discourse around rider tends to be just WAY worse, because of the wider audience.

yeah. i do think ultra is still more Mainstream in englang and overseas places, but rider hits the best with the fandom/nerd focused groups, mostly bc of the serious deal u said and bc at least on places like tumblr, the fanservice/writing is akin to YA/shonen stuff that's popular there. there is also a buncha obvious aspects dudebro nerds love too, of course

I think a lot of it is there's this weird discomfort in a lot of fandom spaces with sentai and ultra because of the presence and cultural association with like, power rangers and the daikaiju stuff that did get localized, which like, it's silly, that kind of anxiety about liking a thing that's not mature enough, but folks do it!

I also think Rider kinda trends closest to the kinds of visual and narrative styles that are already popular among english speaking japanese media nerds. (Ultra is absolutely more popular overall I'm mostly talking about the kinds of spaces that generate these kinds of conversations)

absolutely agree!! rider skews much closer to nerd and otaku friendly aesthetics and "themes" these days. also man, power rangers really did do a number on toku worldwide huh. glad it's more or less dead now.

they really wanted him to be the next deadpool lol. they even had a whole ass ep explicitly promoting vice's VA, and vice gets more expressive scenes than the three main siblings. the show really was just a glorified subaru kimura vehicle lol

Revice had so many issues and kimusuba was a massive one. Even putting aside that he's a shit person, he's a mid va and the vocal direction resulted in a very subpar performance that completely sank the parts that ate supposed to pull on your heart strings. I can think of so many voice actors who could have done a better job of both the funny and emotional aspects, including people who aren't even VAs. I've heard Eitoku's Urataros voice, I think he could've pulled it off.

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