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yumeirochaser
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cohost was pretty decent but also the economics mismanagement (esp the lack of transparency and planning) and cliqueyness here was really really apparent. like it's a shame it couldn't get better but also...yeah they kinda didn't try to do much to solve the situation around it.
idk seeing people praise Tumblr 2 as if it was some sort of tolerant marxist haven is so wild when they literally had a sitewide discussion weeks on why the userbase was so white and tended to harass non yank non white people off the site lol. like i wouldn't be as mad about this if the site culture wasn't based on being as smug about being better than everyone else as it was. it's not as bad as twitter at all, but y'all had a huge inferiority complex over having a site culture derivative of tumblr's lol

either way, it's a shame it couldn't have the chance to get better, i kinda was starting to talk and post more here. i actually did like the way you could talk about niche topics and subculture things in cohost quite a bit despite my criticisms, and by the end i did get more people to talk to there than tumblr. but also it was still very much like its parent, warts and all lmao. sorry for not being kinder and stuff in this post but i kind of felt burned by the site after seeing the users do the exact same things they constantly say this site never does lol. at least i got to meet a bunch of my friends again here! hope i see them again


yumeirochaser
@yumeirochaser

like i think my dissappointment with the site are less with the site itself and more with the fact that the userbase kind of had a huge (and very parasocial) superiority complex over people who....used other sites. or even like, were on cohost but also had other socials. and it wouldn't be as bad if that complex wasn't based on saying they don't do stuff here that they do in other sites while doing those exact same things lol. being smug about not being racist and ableist while doing exactly that comes off as very hypocritical, and it wouldn't stand out that much if the site culture didn't revolve around denying or belitting those things and constantly comparing itself to other places instead of talking about what is good about here. you all acted as if spies from Other Sites were wanting to destroy this place, while like. barely anyone knows cohost exists lmao

sorry for being so bitter, it's just that after the renkon thing i'm like. you all really are tumblr again and in constant denial about it lol.


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culture often comes from the top. the mission statement of the site was "like those other social media sites but actually good", staff's idea of themselves, along with their close friends who made the first users, was that they were morally better than the people building and running and using those other sites. is it any wonder that a lot of the user base absorbed that idea of superiority to some degree? probably a not-insignificant amount of people were attracted by the idea.

you could well say the ideals behind this site are actually morally superior, doesn't really negate the way you treat other people when you already know you're on the better website

yeaaaah exactly. it kinda was the whole place's Thing from the start. to be better and morally superior than the bottom feeders everywhere else and to deny and ignore any possible flaws this place has. it kinda WAS doomed from the start as a community, huh?

If this were Tumblr, Renkon would have had a whole smear campaign against him and the TERFs would get involved somehow. What you're saying isn't without merit but this was a bit better, and if we're going to learn anything from this we can't forget that.

(FWIW I've essentially been viewed as "Cohost sycophant numero uno" by many but I always had other socials)

....are you trying to defend a racist hate campaign in this site by literally doing what i'm complaining about. like are you doing that. are you really dying in this hill buddy. saying that cohosters are The Good Kind Of Racists.

also buddy you can't say the people in the site are good racists bc they are pro trans ppl considering one of the things that made renkon leave was saying a white transphobe woman was being racist and transphobic lol

man, you all are really keeping up with that complex till the end huh.

dude you literally came out and said the racism in this instance wasn't as bad bc it's done by pro trans people, ignoring that part of what made renkon leave was that people were made at them saying a racist transphobe was racist and a transphobe. you are all full of shit, could you please stop with the superiority complex and accept the people in here fucked up? the site is fucking dead anyways. there's nothing left to white knight here.
like. you literally said that.

I "literally said" nothing of the sort as is clear to anyone with eyes. I never even said this site's average user is less racist than Tumblr's average user. What I said is harassment was less bad here. That's very different and it's owed to the design and, though it came short, moderation that is objectively way better than Tumblr's. And that we should study what went right in addition to what went wrong.

lol don't try to diminish things. you're sounding cringey as shit. also for how pro trans the argument is you referred to renkon w/ the wrong pronouns lollll stop embarassing urself like this it's kinda sad
you can't be so defensive in a post saying this site has a problem with racism saying "well but it's not THAT bad we are still better than everyone else" you are literally doing what i am complaining about lmao

You know what? Shut up. Maybe if you were less obsessed with your own perspective and characterizing everything as bad under social justice reasoning as if that were the point or even valuable insight, you would learn something. I commented to point out something trivial and self-evident that many people of color including the author of Cohost So White agree with, and you've just responded with insane hostility and accusations that are textually false. This website actually was never meant for you and your attitude. It never felt like a clique to me because I didn't spend my entire time here trying to poke holes in the vision and resenting the userbase like some people. Maybe you should have tried that too. I never expected this site to have zero racism on it because that's impossible, and as far as I know only white people expected that. I expected this site to have less harassment and it did and I say that as someone who experienced harassment on this site. I don't even know anything about Renkon, clearly neither do you if you just now noticed I used the wrong pronouns goofy head, idk why I was under the he/him impression, I was operating off zero sleep, but it doesn't matter. You are just a douche trying to use whatever against me. "lol lmao". You keep fucking repeating that I said anything about this website being pro trans or the userbase being better more pure people when I fucking didn't, Example A let's take yo annoying ass. It's so clear that you don't want a conversation you just want someone to hear you. So here's me hearing you, DA BIG BAD COHOSTIES ARE SOOPER RACIST AND DAT'S WHY DA WEBSITE DIEDED. Happy? Fuckhead. I swear to God with white people...

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